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everyone welcome to the show

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um we're back after a little higher this

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last week and tonight on Strictly my

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cats and he is an author and head of

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phantoms and monsters as well as head up

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Phantoms and monsters radio let's

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welcome Lan hi lawn

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Hi how are you huh hanging in there

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oh that's good so thank you so much for

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being here I appreciate sticking around

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that was a great show you had tonight by

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the way

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well Sam is he's a legend I mean he's a

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44 year old Legend so uh

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yeah he's uh he's a talented guy and uh

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I was glad to have him one and I'm going

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to try to utilize him more and more so

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yep so yeah he he does have a lot of

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interesting subjects and uh of course

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the artwork goes along with that and of

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course as you can see behind me I'm

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starting a little gallery of Sam shear

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they are

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great pictures behind you they really

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are it makes a nice backdrop

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I'm gonna

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respond to the general how did you get

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into this

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I I didn't hear you kind of skipped out

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oh no sorry so I'm just going to ask you

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the basic question how did you get into

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the the field of the Paranormal for

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those who don't know

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well I kind of fell into it

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for those people don't know my my story

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uh we'll kind of put it out there

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because

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um

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it is an interesting story I suppose

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most people like to hear about it but

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anyway I um

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it I knew from the very beginning or

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when I was old enough to realize things

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that something was different with me

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uh I

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in my first real encounter happened when

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I was around nine years old

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around that I I think was in 1967 Maybe

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so you know you guys do the math you

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know I'm an old guy so I've been around

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doing this for a while

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anyway I um

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I used to spend a lot of time at

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Gettysburg Battlefield

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and of course it took you and Tommy

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there last year's you you probably

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recognize the area I'm going to talk

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uh that area that road that leads into

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uh Devil's Den and before you go up it

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take a left up into a little round top

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and by the wheat field

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um I was on my bike

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and uh all of a sudden

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it's like a big TV screen opened up in

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and for about 30 seconds

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I was in the battle

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I was seeing soldiers hearing gunfire

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cannon fire smelling gunpowder all my

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senses were heightened

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and that it lasts for about 30 seconds

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and just suddenly vanished

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it was eye-opening you know I that's the

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first time I

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anything like that had happened to me

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now I had a few things happen here in

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arrows and I knew something was going on

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with me but I just didn't really know

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what it was

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so that's where it began

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uh as time went on uh I started now I

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didn't live in a haunted house I didn't

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live in an area in a house that had a

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lot going there were a lot of things and

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I talked about this with Sam tonight I

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had things that were happening to me

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I I would see things that I just didn't

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really understand

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and I think most people that are

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intuitive do do experience things like

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but I never mentioned all this stuff to

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my parents uh very conservative

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upbringing you know I was I was raised

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at the Lutheran

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conservative town south central

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Pennsylvania

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you know people just didn't talk about

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especially back then and so after I I

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grew up a bit I was still in high school

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my senior year in particular

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investigations and and quite frankly it

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was all Word of Mouth back then there

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we'd have cell phones or anything

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so it was all word of mouth and

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eventually people would contact me and

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ask me to take a look at things

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I take a look at their you know where

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they lived at or businesses and stuff

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and I did and my senior year in high

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school I was pretty busy

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I was um I was going to a lot of places

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but when you it was hard to talk to

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people about it because

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back then when you said oh yeah I'm a

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Paranormal Investigator I and they'd

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look at you like you know the deer in a

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headlight they didn't know what the hell

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you were talking about

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half a semester and uh I left there had

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to start a family

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and uh I moved down to Maryland

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and I was living in Sykesville Maryland

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and you know I was with the work

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I was married for five years my first

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wife then I got a divorce I had custody

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of my daughter

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and uh that year of the separation

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before the divorce I had an encounter

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with a Bigfoot outside of uh Sykesville

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people call it the sightsville monster

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you know that there was a lot of stuff

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that had happened in that area but I

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happened to be fishing one day on the

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branch of Patapsco River which is about

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a mile Downstream from

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Sykesville Maryland and I had an

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encounter and if you want to go into it

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we'll go into it further but uh after

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several years later in 1988 I had also

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had a winged humanoid encounter

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uh here in Pennsylvania uh at Camp

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Conewago which is actually very close to

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me now who I live in I live in konawaga

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Township outside of Hanover and um it's

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uh you know it's an old boy scout camp

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but I was there as a favor to someone it

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was with three other with two other

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gentlemen who were Scout Masters and had

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asked me to come in and do the

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investigation we had this encounter with

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this red-eyed Wing being

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very similar to what's been going on in

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now of course I knew about the Mothman

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and all that but you know after I had

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the Bigfoot encounter I was very in very

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much into the Cryptids and uh you know

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40 some years later that's what I do so

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uh that has all culminated into the blog

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do you let me make sure okay do you

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think that you were kind of predestined

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you know I've been asked that I have

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thought about that I I think there's a

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possibility that may have happened

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I wasn't convinced of it until all this

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stuff started happening in Chicago

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I think my initial encounter

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was kind of a precursor to what I was

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going to end up investigating in in

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Chicago and it's what's interesting

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about the Chicago sightings is that

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myself and our team have been involved

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with that

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exclusively for the most part because a

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lot of other teams just have not really

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picked up on it

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from early on and we've been looking at

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this since 2011.

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so uh I don't know maybe it has been

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predestined but it's bizarre it has it's

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very bizarre how it kind of culminated

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into what we're doing now and uh it's

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been an amazing investigation for all

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these years

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oh no it's okay the video kind of went

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choppy and I thought you were done

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speaking go ahead no okay

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no and uh I I think um you know we kind

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you know I I put that's that's when that

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Chicago Phantom task force of Chicago

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Mothman task force uh I had some

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well-known people on there we had a um

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uh Rosemary Allan goddam is part of my

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uh I kind of bounced a lot of this stuff

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and she actually did the first

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presentation of 2017 at the Mothman

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Festival in Point Pleasant

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uh and she kind of put it out there for

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us and uh you know it's kind of evolved

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to this point so uh

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two books of mine and one book tobiases

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um you know this is where we're at uh

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about 158 sightings that we believe are

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are very very verifiable and uh it's

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continuing so uh you know it it goes on

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you know it's kind of the investigation

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yeah no I agree with that I

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said I asked that is because I've had

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similar to you as well like my

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experience is starting childhood and led

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to now and it's just you have to wonder

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if it's not something that's predestined

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to somebody you know that's why I asked

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if you thought that so no I'm getting

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back on jobs you had this week

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yeah I I really do it it makes you

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wonder you know

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um so this week you will put out a post

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about a Bigfoot being decapitated and

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hit by a bull I believe a trucker

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yeah that was kind of that was kind of a

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strange story it was um

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I I I saw it

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I saw it posted at uh

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let's see

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you know I I saw it posted over at Steve

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isdov's website which is the facts of

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howtohunt.com

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so I did the transcription

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and I looked into it pretty much further

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but actually what happened was this was

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it was it was a German immigrant

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who happened to be in Ontario Canada

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working uh on a Visa during the

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Christmas holidays of 2018.

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and uh he he later went on to a podcast

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it's a reality podcast

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and I think it's changed its name since

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then but he talked about it

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what what happened was he was um

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he was on uh

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uh Ontario route 502 northbound

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from Fort Francis to Dryden it was an

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uh the date was December 19

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2018. he was about 11 40 P.M

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and he said he suddenly saw a semi

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with its hazard lights on the side of

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the road

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and uh

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he he you know he didn't know what was

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going was happening but he could tell

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the front when he you know he looked

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back he saw the front was damaged on the

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truck so he stopped he pulled over and

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stopped

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and uh he got out and he tried to he

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knocked on the door of the cab the the

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truck and tried to contact whoever was

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you know whoever this was and he wasn't

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getting an answer well he eventually got

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in there I don't know if the guy opened

294
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it up or it was open but anyway he went

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in and he said this driver was coward in

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in the in the uh in the bed of the truck

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and he was saved as pale as a ghost he

298
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said he didn't know what happened

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but you know so

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this gentleman this witness he

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said well I'm going to call the I'm

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going to call the police and call the

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Provincial Police

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and when he um

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and when he got out of the cab he looked

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up the road and there was blood

307
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everywhere I mean it was like a ton of

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blood

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and the first thing he thought was this

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guy hit a bear

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so he he trial he followed the blood

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trail and I don't know how far back he

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went

314
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but when he came upon this huge massive

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fur dark fur

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and the first thing he thought was this

317
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is a humongous bear I don't know what

318
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this was but he has he got closer to it

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he could tell it was a Bigfoot and that

320
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the head was nearly decapitated from

321
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this thing thus all the blood

322
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so uh he he called Provincial Police

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and they came eventually

324
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and uh

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he said the strange thing about it was

326
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when he

327
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and told him what he saw they acted like

328
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yeah this they seem so nonchalant about

329
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it

330
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and um

331
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which is crazy

332
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and like they you know they've seen

333
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something like this before

334
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so they wanted to question him further

335
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as to what happened so what they did

336
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they took him back to the station

337
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they put him in the interrogation room

338
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and he had to wait there for a bit

339
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and he didn't you know he didn't know

340
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what what to expect

341
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so uh as he was there

342
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a female officer let's see what no he

343
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said

344
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room

345
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he said he looked really odd a bit like

346
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an ill person because

347
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he uh had the grayish colored skin bald

348
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head and sort of sunken cheeks

349
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they said he had like a Quebec accent

350
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and spoke very gently and calmly without

351
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any expression at all

352
00:16:29,689 --> 00:16:27,060
and uh he had to recall everything that

353
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he experienced and all all his personal

354
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information his reason for being in

355
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Canada

356
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and they fingerprinted him and took a

357
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DNA sample of saliva

358
00:16:43,550 --> 00:16:41,040
he said it felt like he was being

359
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interrogated like a criminal

360
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and uh then after he he had told his

361
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story they made him sign a

362
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non-disclosure agreement

363
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and uh he said the agreement was bizarre

364
00:17:00,889 --> 00:16:58,500
because it didn't have any type of coat

365
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of arms or anything from Ontario or

366
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anything it was just like a like a piece

367
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of paper with all this stuff on there

368
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:09,780
and he said when he signed it

369
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he this this guy

370
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told him

371
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that you did not see anything

372
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you know he told him that you know he

373
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was going to have to leave Canada

374
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within a week by the end of the year

375
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and uh that you know he he would not be

376
00:17:37,610 --> 00:17:34,440
allowed

377
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to come back into the into Canada he

378
00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:39,059
can't even get back into the United

379
00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:41,460
States so he's he's been cut off in

380
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North America altogether

381
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so of course when I read this first

382
00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:48,480
thing I thought was this is very similar

383
00:17:52,549 --> 00:17:49,860
to what we see

384
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with Men In Black encounters very

385
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similar so I mean the question is why

386
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did why is this going on

387
00:18:02,210 --> 00:18:00,419
um

388
00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:02,220
you know things like this seem to happen

389
00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:04,260
in Canada I don't know what it is I've

390
00:18:08,090 --> 00:18:06,720
talked to Dave Scott at based out radio

391
00:18:12,169 --> 00:18:08,100
about this

392
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and uh I mean I don't understand why

393
00:18:17,390 --> 00:18:14,460
this does seem to happen a lot in Canada

394
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oh sorry go ahead

395
00:18:21,049 --> 00:18:19,320
hey

396
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it

397
00:18:28,010 --> 00:18:26,039
wonder like is that actually like a

398
00:18:30,770 --> 00:18:28,020
binding document though

399
00:18:33,470 --> 00:18:30,780
he signed if there was no

400
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you know no heading or a thing on it I

401
00:18:38,210 --> 00:18:35,419
mean

402
00:18:40,430 --> 00:18:38,220
it's a scare tactic

403
00:18:42,770 --> 00:18:40,440
oh sure it was a scare tactic but the

404
00:18:47,650 --> 00:18:42,780
thing is he has tried to get back into

405
00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:47,660
North America uh into Canada he's he's

406
00:18:51,529 --> 00:18:49,980
blacklisted he's blacklisted for the

407
00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:51,539
United States

408
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:54,360
so of course uh U.S immigration is part

409
00:18:58,730 --> 00:18:56,520
of this as well

410
00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:58,740
so the thing you got to think about is

411
00:19:03,409 --> 00:19:01,440
um well maybe there's a cooperation

412
00:19:05,810 --> 00:19:03,419
thing there and um

413
00:19:07,789 --> 00:19:05,820
he's been blocked out of coming into uh

414
00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,799
into North America now for over three

415
00:19:12,590 --> 00:19:09,840
years so uh apparently I mean to you

416
00:19:14,510 --> 00:19:12,600
know according to his story now I you

417
00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,520
know when you read something like this

418
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,320
you start to wonder what did this

419
00:19:23,630 --> 00:19:18,000
actually

420
00:19:26,690 --> 00:19:23,640
there any information about this

421
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:26,700
and I did look at it and I I did listen

422
00:19:31,070 --> 00:19:28,320
to the guy

423
00:19:32,110 --> 00:19:31,080
on the video I think he's very sincere

424
00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:32,120
about it

425
00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:35,039
uh and you know

426
00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:37,860
peop people things like this do happen I

427
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:39,960
mean there's you know the whole Bigfoot

428
00:19:47,810 --> 00:19:45,710
seems to to raise the stakes for

429
00:19:50,570 --> 00:19:47,820
whatever reason uh it happens here in

430
00:19:52,610 --> 00:19:50,580
the United States as well my encounter

431
00:19:58,190 --> 00:19:52,620
uh

432
00:20:01,549 --> 00:19:58,200
investigators

433
00:20:03,409 --> 00:20:01,559
back then that was back in 81 so um I

434
00:20:05,150 --> 00:20:03,419
know it does happen

435
00:20:07,250 --> 00:20:05,160
and I haven't questioned about a lot of

436
00:20:11,870 --> 00:20:07,260
different things over the years as well

437
00:20:15,289 --> 00:20:11,880
so I'm kind of on the radar also so um

438
00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:15,299
yeah it's it's it's a bizarre story but

439
00:20:18,590 --> 00:20:16,260
uh

440
00:20:32,450 --> 00:20:18,600
I I believe think I believed it I

441
00:20:36,830 --> 00:20:34,430
do you think it happens more with

442
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:36,840
Bigfoot than the other Cryptid that this

443
00:20:42,169 --> 00:20:38,880
you know that people get saved you know

444
00:20:44,270 --> 00:20:42,179
a visit from the Men in Black or you

445
00:20:46,610 --> 00:20:44,280
know like what happened to you or the

446
00:20:49,490 --> 00:20:46,620
guy in Canada

447
00:20:52,730 --> 00:20:49,500
or is it just yeah all around

448
00:20:55,610 --> 00:20:52,740
I I think as far as Cryptids go it it

449
00:20:58,010 --> 00:20:55,620
probably happens more so with Bigfoot

450
00:21:00,169 --> 00:20:58,020
and the reason I say that is there's

451
00:21:02,150 --> 00:21:00,179
many more Bigfoot reports as opposed to

452
00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:02,160
other crypt is like malt Manor dog man

453
00:21:08,210 --> 00:21:05,640
or all that but I I think there's an

454
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,220
ulterior motive there somewhere I I

455
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:10,080
think the government in particular

456
00:21:16,130 --> 00:21:12,240
United States has got some type of

457
00:21:18,890 --> 00:21:16,140
involvement with Bigfoot uh for whatever

458
00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:18,900
reason or the militarizing Bigfoot are

459
00:21:24,409 --> 00:21:21,660
they using for some other type of

460
00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:24,419
beans I don't know but there does seem

461
00:21:29,090 --> 00:21:26,760
to be something there and um you know

462
00:21:32,750 --> 00:21:29,100
this is something I've been looking into

463
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:32,760
oh my God for over 40 years now and uh I

464
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,280
still really have an answer got a lot of

465
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:38,480
you know a lot of conjecture a lot of

466
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:42,000
stories a lot of eyewitness reports of

467
00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:45,120
different things but um

468
00:21:51,169 --> 00:21:46,980
there you know there does seem to be

469
00:21:51,179 --> 00:21:54,010
foreign

470
00:21:58,010 --> 00:21:56,270
so I have a question for you from

471
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,020
Vincent

472
00:22:01,970 --> 00:22:00,240
didn't the authorities arrive unusually

473
00:22:03,470 --> 00:22:01,980
fast after the sighting of the

474
00:22:06,350 --> 00:22:03,480
Sykesville monster

475
00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:06,360
well in my case he did

476
00:22:12,289 --> 00:22:09,480
um after I had reported to the

477
00:22:14,210 --> 00:22:12,299
Sykesville police I drove back to the

478
00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:14,220
location I was asked to go back there

479
00:22:18,830 --> 00:22:17,100
and wait for an officer to get there it

480
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:18,840
was only like a three minute drive from

481
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:21,600
where I got on the phone with them

482
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:24,120
and when I got there there was a

483
00:22:28,610 --> 00:22:25,919
Maryland State Police Officer already

484
00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:28,620
there with a wooden barrier across the

485
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:30,360
road

486
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:32,880
and uh when I did go up to him he told

487
00:22:37,010 --> 00:22:35,280
me he said you got to leave and I did

488
00:22:38,450 --> 00:22:37,020
and I you know I told him I was the one

489
00:22:40,490 --> 00:22:38,460
that made the report he said I didn't

490
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,500
care he didn't care just get out of here

491
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:42,720
so I did I went back home

492
00:22:48,289 --> 00:22:44,880
but then when I did come back an hour

493
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:48,299
later it was like it was like a circus

494
00:22:53,149 --> 00:22:50,000
there I mean there were

495
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,159
uh there were people with dogs going

496
00:22:57,409 --> 00:22:55,200
through the woods and all around the

497
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:57,419
area there was a large white tent set up

498
00:23:03,409 --> 00:23:00,480
on the North Bank of the um uh the

499
00:23:04,669 --> 00:23:03,419
Patapsco River there

500
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:04,679
um

501
00:23:10,970 --> 00:23:08,400
I heard helicopters I I saw the black s

502
00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:10,980
well it wasn't SUVs back then the old

503
00:23:14,690 --> 00:23:12,360
wagoneers

504
00:23:16,430 --> 00:23:14,700
uh were what they used to drive back

505
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:16,440
then and there were two of those there

506
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:19,679
there were there were authorities from

507
00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:21,360
all the jurisdictions

508
00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:23,460
Howard County

509
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,500
um Baltimore County on the other side

510
00:23:29,630 --> 00:23:27,360
and uh

511
00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:29,640
uh Sykesville police Carroll County

512
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:32,120
Sheriff I mean all of them were there

513
00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:35,280
so uh yeah and um

514
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:37,860
why that happened and you know I did

515
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,080
find out later because I have talked I

516
00:23:44,750 --> 00:23:42,240
did look into it pretty closely

517
00:23:46,909 --> 00:23:44,760
uh there had been a sighting about

518
00:23:47,930 --> 00:23:46,919
Downstream about three hours prior to

519
00:23:50,210 --> 00:23:47,940
mine

520
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:50,220
that a woman had seen a Bigfoot

521
00:23:54,289 --> 00:23:52,860
in Marysville and

522
00:23:57,289 --> 00:23:54,299
um

523
00:24:00,110 --> 00:23:57,299
she she made a call the police

524
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,120
and for whatever reason they had been

525
00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:02,159
tracking this thing now

526
00:24:07,070 --> 00:24:05,580
for those people who who are familiar or

527
00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:07,080
aren't familiar with the Baltimore

528
00:24:11,630 --> 00:24:08,820
Washington area there's a lot of

529
00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:11,640
buildings a lot of facilities

530
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:14,580
that are unmarked or people don't really

531
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:16,799
know what the hell's going on there

532
00:24:22,010 --> 00:24:19,679
now did this thing escape from somewhere

533
00:24:23,870 --> 00:24:22,020
did it get out into the open and they

534
00:24:26,330 --> 00:24:23,880
were hunting it down I I don't know it

535
00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:26,340
may very well be I I have some evidence

536
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:29,580
to point that direction

537
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,400
but I you know it a lot of those

538
00:24:36,590 --> 00:24:34,799
conjecture at this point and uh I don't

539
00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:36,600
know if I ever find out

540
00:24:40,850 --> 00:24:38,580
but there had been sightings in

541
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,860
Sykesville about seven or eight years

542
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:42,960
prior to that which would take hold the

543
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:44,580
place full Monster

544
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:48,000
that area of

545
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:50,880
Carroll County in Baltimore County has

546
00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:53,039
well it's mostly Carroll County

547
00:24:57,289 --> 00:24:55,260
has have had sightings around the

548
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:57,299
Liberty Reservoir and in the Patapsco

549
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,740
River Valley

550
00:25:03,950 --> 00:25:00,720
uh of Bigfoot there have been several

551
00:25:06,409 --> 00:25:03,960
Class A sightings reported to pfro

552
00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:06,419
and um

553
00:25:13,310 --> 00:25:10,260
these folks that lived in uh Sykesville

554
00:25:15,049 --> 00:25:13,320
I was lucky enough to to find one of

555
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:15,059
their relatives who I actually worked

556
00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:17,460
with and he introduced me to the law the

557
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,320
the previous Witnesses

558
00:25:25,330 --> 00:25:22,320
and I found a few other ones as well so

559
00:25:27,710 --> 00:25:25,340
I I had you know I had I was on getting

560
00:25:30,649 --> 00:25:27,720
first-hand information as to what people

561
00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:30,659
were experiencing

562
00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:34,440
and uh this at the time this was around

563
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:37,380
the time of the Agnes flood back in 72

564
00:25:44,029 --> 00:25:40,320
you end this beginning of 73.

565
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,039
and uh this Bigfoot or this Sykesville

566
00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:45,840
monster what they called in was breaking

567
00:25:48,909 --> 00:25:48,120
into homes breaking into garages and

568
00:25:51,769 --> 00:25:48,919
such

569
00:25:53,570 --> 00:25:51,779
uh one of the sexual police officers had

570
00:25:57,470 --> 00:25:53,580
a personal encounter with this thing in

571
00:25:58,970 --> 00:25:57,480
fact what happened was uh he heard noise

572
00:26:00,649 --> 00:25:58,980
in the garage

573
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:00,659
and

574
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:06,240
thing literally broke the door down of

575
00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:07,980
the garage from the out from the inside

576
00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:09,779
out knocked the policeman to the ground

577
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,539
and took off

578
00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:15,120
um I talked to one person who had one of

579
00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:16,860
these had this being get into their

580
00:26:22,190 --> 00:26:18,440
kitchen

581
00:26:24,409 --> 00:26:22,200
uh and several people down the river

582
00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:24,419
used to keep chickens and pens and stuff

583
00:26:27,549 --> 00:26:26,039
and they had pets and pens and it was

584
00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:27,559
breaking into those

585
00:26:32,810 --> 00:26:29,880
so there was definitely something going

586
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:32,820
on now it was was the it was the being I

587
00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:35,279
encountered part of that I don't know it

588
00:26:40,669 --> 00:26:38,340
very well could have been but uh you

589
00:26:43,789 --> 00:26:40,679
know it's it's interesting you know it's

590
00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:43,799
very interesting and very close to what

591
00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:45,720
you know I got the composite that

592
00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:47,580
Vincent has up there now

593
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,220
uh I got all their descriptions put it

594
00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:52,559
all together and I later sent it to a

595
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,080
forensic ordinance down in Florida

596
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,320
who did that sketch for me and uh that's

597
00:27:03,409 --> 00:27:00,720
what I saw I mean when I did see this

598
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:03,419
thing it was like 40 foot away from you

599
00:27:08,450 --> 00:27:07,320
very close wow we were eye to eye and uh

600
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,460
this thing was about eight foot in

601
00:27:13,310 --> 00:27:10,799
height dark brown hair

602
00:27:15,649 --> 00:27:13,320
uh dark skin

603
00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:15,659
but the face looked more Neanderthal

604
00:27:22,370 --> 00:27:19,380
more human like than opposed to an ape

605
00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:22,380
and uh you know if I'd had a gun or

606
00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:23,880
something with me I don't think I could

607
00:27:27,890 --> 00:27:25,260
have shot it because it looked more

608
00:27:30,169 --> 00:27:27,900
human to me than it did in ape so I

609
00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:30,179
didn't know what I was doing with

610
00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:36,830
Vincent wants to know were you scared

611
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,940
I was just so shocked

612
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:40,799
was probably more shocked than I was

613
00:27:42,529 --> 00:27:41,950
scared

614
00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:42,539
[Music]

615
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:43,260
um

616
00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:45,240
you know I'd heard a Bigfoot I had heard

617
00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:47,220
about the uh Boggy Creek incident that

618
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,140
had you know had been reported around

619
00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:50,880
that period of time

620
00:27:55,250 --> 00:27:52,980
uh that was out had the movie out and

621
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:55,260
they had the whole story of Boggy Creek

622
00:28:00,110 --> 00:27:58,080
and I knew of Bigfoot I had seen the

623
00:28:03,470 --> 00:28:00,120
Patterson gimlet film I had you know the

624
00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:03,480
Freeman film and other things and um

625
00:28:07,549 --> 00:28:05,340
I I knew people had reported these

626
00:28:09,289 --> 00:28:07,559
things but I had no idea I was ever

627
00:28:11,390 --> 00:28:09,299
going to run across it

628
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:11,400
but I do believe that's what I did

629
00:28:16,850 --> 00:28:13,919
encounter and uh you look at the picture

630
00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:16,860
this is probably what you know what what

631
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:19,860
it was and uh but no that that that

632
00:28:25,789 --> 00:28:23,039
rendering there is very very close to

633
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:25,799
what I encountered

634
00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:31,970
something like that because I've I've

635
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:33,960
never seen one but I think I would I

636
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:35,700
would be just as shocked

637
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,880
I mean that's amazing

638
00:28:42,409 --> 00:28:40,559
um Vincent Elsa wants to know do you

639
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:42,419
think there's a breeding population a

640
00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:45,000
Bigfoot in that area do you think that's

641
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,340
why they all come like all the

642
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,440
authorities Converge on it like somehow

643
00:28:54,169 --> 00:28:52,320
how they were trying to maybe track a

644
00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:54,179
population that was there and one of

645
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,100
them just happened to like show himself

646
00:29:00,529 --> 00:28:58,799
I don't know uh it could be a breeding

647
00:29:02,269 --> 00:29:00,539
population there have been so many

648
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:02,279
sightings that it's a good possibility

649
00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:05,220
there is a breeding population but for

650
00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:07,380
the fact but the fact that the feds got

651
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,720
involved with this I think it was

652
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:11,760
something to do with them uh maybe

653
00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:14,159
something escaped from a facility that

654
00:29:18,049 --> 00:29:15,720
they had

655
00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:18,059
um uh or something else I don't know

656
00:29:21,470 --> 00:29:19,320
what happened

657
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:21,480
but and I never really got enough

658
00:29:24,769 --> 00:29:23,940
information to figure out what has did

659
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:24,779
happen

660
00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:26,880
uh but like I said before there have

661
00:29:33,409 --> 00:29:28,620
been a lot of reports

662
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:33,419
so uh now that area now is pretty well

663
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:35,940
you know it's kind of built up

664
00:29:41,690 --> 00:29:38,520
they put a lot of subdivisions in these

665
00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:41,700
this area uh over re over years but I do

666
00:29:45,529 --> 00:29:43,380
occasionally get another sighting report

667
00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:45,539
a close encounter actually

668
00:29:55,850 --> 00:29:53,630
so how long do you think they live how

669
00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:55,860
long do you think a Bigfoot lives in

670
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:56,940
general

671
00:30:04,010 --> 00:30:02,870
I think their lifespan is pretty similar

672
00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:04,020
to ours

673
00:30:09,169 --> 00:30:05,940
now of course they're living out in the

674
00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:09,179
elements uh I think

675
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:12,120
in general that would probably be

676
00:30:18,289 --> 00:30:14,520
detrimental to their lifespan

677
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:18,299
but uh I I do believe that and I've been

678
00:30:24,169 --> 00:30:19,919
asked this before I think they probably

679
00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:24,179
live between 50 to 70 years

680
00:30:33,049 --> 00:30:31,789
see I was wondering about that because I

681
00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:33,059
didn't know if you know people thought

682
00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:34,740
they left hundreds of years things like

683
00:30:39,409 --> 00:30:36,779
that because no I don't think they live

684
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:39,419
that long but I think they're I think

685
00:30:45,529 --> 00:30:42,480
they're uh I think they're um

686
00:30:47,450 --> 00:30:45,539
their DNA and makeup is very close to

687
00:30:49,789 --> 00:30:47,460
ours and uh

688
00:30:51,769 --> 00:30:49,799
that's why I think even though they live

689
00:30:57,010 --> 00:30:51,779
in the elements that their life spans

690
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:00,529
so Thomas Carroll asks do you ever have

691
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:04,260
any sightings up near Camp David

692
00:31:10,130 --> 00:31:06,480
there have been sightings up there up

693
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,140
the Kentucky mountains um

694
00:31:15,970 --> 00:31:12,480
they're having a few sightings up there

695
00:31:18,649 --> 00:31:15,980
now that that whole area of the talking

696
00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:18,659
is pretty well known for a lot of

697
00:31:22,430 --> 00:31:20,760
strange things anyway

698
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:22,440
uh

699
00:31:26,289 --> 00:31:24,059
you know I used to do a lot of fishing

700
00:31:29,389 --> 00:31:26,299
up there a lot of fly fishing

701
00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:29,399
and uh I I know the area pretty well of

702
00:31:33,470 --> 00:31:31,380
course I can't get into Camp David but

703
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:33,480
you know people who knew the area knew

704
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:35,279
the access to Camp David is right off

705
00:31:39,409 --> 00:31:38,640
the main road up going up the hill so

706
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:39,419
um

707
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:41,039
but yeah there have been Bigfoot

708
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,169
you and you wonder what happens to them

709
00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:50,880
if they get near Camp David itself I

710
00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:52,380
mean

711
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,380
like if they're ever spotted within I

712
00:32:00,769 --> 00:31:58,320
guess the perimeter that's protected

713
00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:00,779
you know yeah I mean that perimeter is

714
00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:02,700
one too

715
00:32:06,649 --> 00:32:03,899
okay

716
00:32:10,909 --> 00:32:08,510
go ahead no if you had anything else

717
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,919
said that no no that's it I mean it is a

718
00:32:15,049 --> 00:32:12,720
wide perimeter

719
00:32:16,610 --> 00:32:15,059
um I had been on the Edge at the edge of

720
00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:16,620
the perimeter before

721
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:19,380
uh I don't know what it's like now but I

722
00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:20,399
know

723
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,700
the perimeter extended almost out into

724
00:32:28,669 --> 00:32:24,960
onto the main road there which is

725
00:32:30,730 --> 00:32:28,679
Cunningham Falls Road I think so uh

726
00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:30,740
the the actual

727
00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:34,200
facility or the you know the home and

728
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:37,020
the the whole complex is about a mile

729
00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:39,000
off the main road so it's at least a

730
00:32:48,649 --> 00:32:46,430
oh wow

731
00:32:52,610 --> 00:32:48,659
um so Vincent also asks do you think

732
00:32:56,330 --> 00:32:52,620
seeing Bigfoot Wing humanoid uh is

733
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:01,490
probably not though I can't prove that

734
00:33:05,149 --> 00:33:04,260
um I I think the abduction scenario with

735
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:05,159
me

736
00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:07,200
was a result of my work with David

737
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:08,700
Eckhart

738
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,240
uh David warned me that they may

739
00:33:16,130 --> 00:33:14,159
actually

740
00:33:17,690 --> 00:33:16,140
encount I might have encounters with

741
00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:17,700
them after I started working with him

742
00:33:22,669 --> 00:33:19,080
now it took a while

743
00:33:25,310 --> 00:33:22,679
you know I was with David for about

744
00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:25,320
six or seven years before I had my first

745
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:26,580
encounter

746
00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:31,440
about it was during the year that my

747
00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:33,539
wife was sick with cancer

748
00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:35,940
and uh

749
00:33:42,289 --> 00:33:37,860
I had two encounters at home and each

750
00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:42,299
time it was three told alien Graves

751
00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:44,100
um very tall and I'm talking about seven

752
00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:46,500
to eight foot in height

753
00:33:49,310 --> 00:33:47,460
um

754
00:33:51,409 --> 00:33:49,320
I had the Encounters in the living room

755
00:33:54,529 --> 00:33:51,419
at night

756
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,539
and then I had one encounter where I was

757
00:33:57,549 --> 00:33:56,159
literally I believe I was literally

758
00:34:04,009 --> 00:33:57,559
taken

759
00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:04,019
I don't know if it was on a craft or

760
00:34:07,549 --> 00:34:05,580
somewhere else I don't know what it was

761
00:34:10,490 --> 00:34:07,559
at but all I knew was

762
00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:10,500
when I when I was uh when I was taken I

763
00:34:14,690 --> 00:34:12,540
was taken to a location where they were

764
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:14,700
showing me historical

765
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:18,119
data and and actually showing

766
00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:20,760
uh

767
00:34:25,129 --> 00:34:22,260
things that happened in history

768
00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:25,139
particular and in particular they they

769
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,960
showed me a large

770
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,240
circular craft

771
00:34:35,149 --> 00:34:32,399
that landed and they showed me the

772
00:34:36,290 --> 00:34:35,159
location in what is now the um the Nile

773
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:36,300
Delta

774
00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:39,240
out into the Mediterranean

775
00:34:42,889 --> 00:34:40,980
and you know when I saw that the first

776
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:42,899
thing I know what I did I asked them I

777
00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:45,060
said was this Atlantis and they never

778
00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:46,740
did answer me

779
00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:49,320
but they did show me were

780
00:34:54,409 --> 00:34:51,000
these these

781
00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:54,419
um these beings that were on this craft

782
00:34:59,810 --> 00:34:57,060
intermingled with uh the civilizations

783
00:35:02,170 --> 00:34:59,820
around them and I'm talking about it the

784
00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:02,180
Greeks the Sumerians

785
00:35:06,589 --> 00:35:04,500
he um

786
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:06,599
in Mesopotamia around the Fertile

787
00:35:10,970 --> 00:35:09,240
Crescent and especially down into uh

788
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:10,980
Egypt

789
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,040
and I think that um

790
00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:16,079
I I do think that there has been some

791
00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:19,020
intervention with the Egyptians over

792
00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:21,780
over the I mean with the early Egyptians

793
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:24,900
over the years uh during several the

794
00:35:30,050 --> 00:35:27,720
dynasties in particular the 18th Dynasty

795
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:30,060
and um

796
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:31,680
you know some of the things they did

797
00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:34,740
show me did indicate that you know

798
00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:37,140
um so I don't know I mean all I can do

799
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:38,520
is just

800
00:35:44,329 --> 00:35:41,280
tell you or tell whoever what I did

801
00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:44,339
encounter but um yeah they kind of were

802
00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:46,200
trying to show me what their

803
00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:47,820
interpretation of History

804
00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:51,300
and uh that they were involved with the

805
00:35:56,089 --> 00:35:53,099
the um

806
00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:56,099
with the uh advancement of uh several

807
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:58,140
our civilizations or Western

808
00:36:07,849 --> 00:36:01,680
civilizations uh and in particular the

809
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,089
I believe that I truly do

810
00:36:14,810 --> 00:36:13,440
um so I I hate to butcher anyone's name

811
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:14,820
but I'm probably going to butcher her

812
00:36:20,210 --> 00:36:17,760
name Maury Gaddy S Lawn have you ever

813
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:20,220
had any strange happenings at your home

814
00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:26,589
um

815
00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:29,720
well other than this aliens showing up

816
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:32,460
uh I used to I used to get a lot of blue

817
00:36:37,730 --> 00:36:34,400
worb activity

818
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:37,740
I was uh I did notice a lot of blue orb

819
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,320
activity in my apartment and I was I was

820
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,480
living down in in Randallstown Maryland

821
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:44,000
at the time

822
00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:47,760
uh and my my wife had seen that as well

823
00:36:51,770 --> 00:36:49,560
so we were seeing a lot of strange

824
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:51,780
things there

825
00:36:55,730 --> 00:36:53,400
um

826
00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:55,740
but other than that I I really haven't

827
00:36:59,810 --> 00:36:57,839
had much happen at home

828
00:37:02,030 --> 00:36:59,820
and even now I live you know you know

829
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:02,040
where I live I live right beside a large

830
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:06,000
uh Cemetery yeah and outside in

831
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:09,119
mcjerrystown Pennsylvania and uh

832
00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:11,940
I had I very rarely sense anything here

833
00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:15,420
so uh you know I I haven't had much

834
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:27,410
well that's good you're lucky yeah

835
00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:28,730
so

836
00:37:32,089 --> 00:37:29,339
um

837
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:32,099
yeah no I'm I'm jealous you know how my

838
00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:34,880
house is I'm very jealous

839
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:41,569
so what about they also before the show

840
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:42,960
we're also talking about the Andrew

841
00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:44,760
Dawson case because you posted about

842
00:37:49,849 --> 00:37:47,579
that as well yeah do you want to tell

843
00:37:53,450 --> 00:37:49,859
everyone about that yeah I'll talk about

844
00:37:54,290 --> 00:37:53,460
that uh what happened was

845
00:37:57,370 --> 00:37:54,300
um

846
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:57,380
let's copy the name of Andrew Dawson

847
00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:00,720
reported that he saw

848
00:38:07,849 --> 00:38:03,240
some type of either giant or large

849
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:07,859
Bigfoot on on one of the uh The Whistler

850
00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:11,280
Mountain ridges in British Columbia

851
00:38:18,050 --> 00:38:13,560
it's called whistler's Peak

852
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,060
and uh there were it was video of it

853
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,400
um he did report it

854
00:38:25,609 --> 00:38:22,800
uh then he started reporting that he was

855
00:38:26,930 --> 00:38:25,619
being followed and told not to disclose

856
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,940
any of this

857
00:38:30,609 --> 00:38:29,280
then

858
00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:30,619
um

859
00:38:37,069 --> 00:38:33,000
you know several months after that

860
00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:40,190
now was he trying to be silenced I don't

861
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:41,460
know

862
00:38:50,690 --> 00:38:47,760
people who knew of this guy

863
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:50,700
that said that he died under a very

864
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:53,040
mysterious circumstances

865
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:56,040
and that he was told he actually before

866
00:39:02,390 --> 00:38:58,640
he passed he was actually trying to

867
00:39:05,569 --> 00:39:02,400
to say that this was um that he made

868
00:39:06,829 --> 00:39:05,579
this up and that this did not happen

869
00:39:09,410 --> 00:39:06,839
but

870
00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:09,420
he was still being harassed and like you

871
00:39:14,690 --> 00:39:11,220
said to me tonight

872
00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:14,700
uh his girlfriend is trying to say now

873
00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:16,680
that this was a hoax but

874
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:19,140
there's still a lot of question about it

875
00:39:21,470 --> 00:39:20,400
so

876
00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:21,480
um

877
00:39:26,089 --> 00:39:24,540
we really don't know what happened here

878
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,099
um

879
00:39:30,770 --> 00:39:28,560
now I did post some I did post something

880
00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:30,780
back in in October

881
00:39:35,390 --> 00:39:33,960
uh where it did have his um it did have

882
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,400
his obituary

883
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:37,920
and I did verify that the guy did pass

884
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,800
it's the same guy that had the encounter

885
00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:43,680
so is this something

886
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,300
you know is this something like before

887
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,280
with the guy who saw the decapitated

888
00:39:50,569 --> 00:39:49,200
Bigfoot is is this something where the

889
00:39:53,089 --> 00:39:50,579
powers that be

890
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:53,099
are trying to hush us up I don't know it

891
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:54,720
very well could be

892
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:59,280
but this this stuff does happen and um

893
00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:01,200
you know I've got a lot of examples over

894
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:02,579
the years of

895
00:40:08,089 --> 00:40:04,440
weird stuff like this happening

896
00:40:10,430 --> 00:40:08,099
especially involving Bigfoot uh I I

897
00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:10,440
don't know what it is I I don't know if

898
00:40:14,030 --> 00:40:12,119
there's something about Bigfoot that

899
00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:14,040
they want to keep quiet

900
00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:17,400
or whatever I mean it it's an enigma to

901
00:40:25,849 --> 00:40:23,150
when I when you post

902
00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:25,859
you post very nosy so I went to take

903
00:40:30,349 --> 00:40:27,720
to count and I watched you know his

904
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:30,359
videos and he posted the giant video

905
00:40:38,089 --> 00:40:35,040
when he found it it's crazy it really

906
00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:38,099
is I mean it's that's up there and then

907
00:40:41,930 --> 00:40:40,140
the other videos you know when he he

908
00:40:43,849 --> 00:40:41,940
denies it himself like he literally

909
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,859
comes on and he's like it was a hoax

910
00:40:47,329 --> 00:40:45,599
you're not gonna hear from me he looks

911
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:47,339
off camera when he's saying and you

912
00:40:52,190 --> 00:40:49,020
could tell he's scared

913
00:40:54,349 --> 00:40:52,200
so then like I went back and I I found

914
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:54,359
his girlfriend's account and she you

915
00:40:58,730 --> 00:40:55,680
know she came on she was basically

916
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,740
saying don't leave me alone he hoaxed it

917
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:00,480
you know he pulled the wool over your

918
00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:03,359
eyes and and that you it was real but it

919
00:41:08,569 --> 00:41:06,359
wasn't real those were her exact words

920
00:41:10,849 --> 00:41:08,579
so then something was real but something

921
00:41:12,349 --> 00:41:10,859
what you know and it's just like you

922
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:12,359
could tell she was afraid she just

923
00:41:16,609 --> 00:41:14,280
wanted left alone

924
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:16,619
so there's something there there's you

925
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:18,300
know whether she's being threatened and

926
00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:19,920
they they have a child so I could

927
00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:21,540
understand that as a mother she would

928
00:41:24,770 --> 00:41:23,700
want you know to protect her child with

929
00:41:27,710 --> 00:41:24,780
him

930
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:27,720
but yeah it that whole thing is just

931
00:41:32,510 --> 00:41:31,020
it's it's crazy it really is I think

932
00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:32,520
she's being PR I think she's being

933
00:41:37,790 --> 00:41:34,920
pressured to keep quiet like he was and

934
00:41:39,470 --> 00:41:37,800
they're kind of coaching her to to say

935
00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:39,480
certain things to try to get people off

936
00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:41,940
of it because it has created quite a

937
00:41:45,530 --> 00:41:43,020
stir

938
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:45,540
uh I I know several people in British

939
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:49,020
Columbia who know all about this and um

940
00:41:56,089 --> 00:41:51,240
yeah it's it's causing people to

941
00:42:01,069 --> 00:41:58,790
yeah or what's on that mountain top I

942
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,079
mean well exactly I I even looked at it

943
00:42:06,410 --> 00:42:03,119
and I'm like what the heck is yeah he's

944
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,420
he's in the car he's pretty far away

945
00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:08,160
what the heck is this giant thing

946
00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:11,339
walking up on on the mountain it's you

947
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:15,180
know it's not a person obviously so

948
00:42:20,089 --> 00:42:17,640
it's yeah and I I feel bad for her I

949
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:20,099
truly do I feel I feel bad for my heart

950
00:42:23,329 --> 00:42:21,660
goes out to her

951
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:23,339
um so I have a question before we move

952
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:26,640
on from Marla do you believe in the

953
00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:30,000
Bigfoot alien connection

954
00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:31,380
yeah

955
00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:33,480
uh there have been a few examples of it

956
00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:37,020
uh historically but of course I I guess

957
00:42:43,069 --> 00:42:39,420
uh this is something that

958
00:42:45,290 --> 00:42:43,079
was a is a theory of uh Stan Gordon

959
00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:45,300
uh of an incident that happened up on

960
00:42:51,050 --> 00:42:47,700
the the Chestnut Ridge in in uh

961
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:51,060
Westmoreland County Pennsylvania

962
00:42:54,589 --> 00:42:52,740
and not far from you

963
00:42:56,210 --> 00:42:54,599
and uh

964
00:42:59,569 --> 00:42:56,220
where

965
00:43:01,550 --> 00:42:59,579
that there was uh there were sightings

966
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,560
of UFOs

967
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,319
that apparently landed in the woods near

968
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,480
a certain location

969
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:09,119
and not long after that there were

970
00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:12,300
several Bigfoot creatures with shining

971
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,579
eyes showing up walking along the fence

972
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,319
line

973
00:43:20,450 --> 00:43:18,240
uh that's not the only time it happened

974
00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:20,460
in in fact it had happened in

975
00:43:25,730 --> 00:43:22,380
Pennsylvania before up near Presque

976
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:25,740
island or off just outside of Erie which

977
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,859
extends out into uh Lake Erie

978
00:43:34,370 --> 00:43:31,200
where there was an encounter with the

979
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,380
UFO and then a Bigfoot at the same time

980
00:43:38,510 --> 00:43:36,720
yeah I do believe it happens and you

981
00:43:41,630 --> 00:43:38,520
know I've had people tell me over the

982
00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:41,640
years that a similar type of sightings

983
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,099
that may or may not have been related to

984
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:47,040
the UFO but it's quite a coincidence so

985
00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:48,720
yeah I think there is a connection there

986
00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:56,450
now do Bigfoot did

987
00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:58,190
that or the glowing

988
00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:00,420
is it was it just these ones that came

989
00:44:05,329 --> 00:44:02,460
out of the craft you've ever heard of

990
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,339
well that particular sighting on the on

991
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:07,200
does that make sense

992
00:44:10,730 --> 00:44:09,119
yeah at that particular setting in

993
00:44:13,490 --> 00:44:10,740
Chester Ridge they seem to have

994
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:13,500
extraordinarily Bright Eyes now I have

995
00:44:19,010 --> 00:44:16,500
had people or Witnesses talk about

996
00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:19,020
you know the eye shine of Bigfoot on

997
00:44:24,349 --> 00:44:20,700
many occasions

998
00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:24,359
but this this this particular eye shine

999
00:44:29,089 --> 00:44:27,000
seems somewhat Supernatural it was more

1000
00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:29,099
projecting like as opposed to reflecting

1001
00:44:31,970 --> 00:44:30,060
light

1002
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:31,980
just like we have had with the the

1003
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:34,560
Mothman phenomena like a projection of

1004
00:44:39,050 --> 00:44:35,700
light

1005
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:39,060
so um I I think uh

1006
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:41,280
you know were these alien beings or I

1007
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:43,560
mean is Bigfoot related to aliens

1008
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:45,420
somehow because of that it very well

1009
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,200
could be uh I did a uh I was involved

1010
00:44:55,010 --> 00:44:51,359
with the habituation

1011
00:44:57,950 --> 00:44:55,020
in uh Northern Nova Scotia

1012
00:44:59,690 --> 00:44:57,960
uh along the Bay of funded back in uh

1013
00:45:03,470 --> 00:44:59,700
about

1014
00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:03,480
six or seven years ago where a farmer on

1015
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:05,880
in Nova Scotia

1016
00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:08,280
was documenting Bigfoot activity on his

1017
00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:09,420
form

1018
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,880
and he used to encounter a lot of UFO

1019
00:45:15,470 --> 00:45:13,440
activity

1020
00:45:17,870 --> 00:45:15,480
and uh he believed that there was

1021
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,880
something there was something to it he

1022
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:19,440
had actually seen one of these creatures

1023
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:23,160
leave a circular craft at one point

1024
00:45:28,609 --> 00:45:26,400
so um yeah I don't know you know I don't

1025
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:28,619
know if it really is that but there have

1026
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:30,240
been there have been some encounters

1027
00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:38,630
say I was going to ask you if you

1028
00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:40,200
thought maybe they were

1029
00:45:45,170 --> 00:45:42,660
the cloaked away or they were something

1030
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:45,180
appearing as Bigfoot that weren't really

1031
00:45:50,569 --> 00:45:47,940
Bigfoot with that kind of I shine

1032
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:50,579
it could be that could be glowing eyes

1033
00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:52,859
was common yeah yeah it could be an

1034
00:45:57,650 --> 00:45:55,800
imitation maybe but um

1035
00:45:59,450 --> 00:45:57,660
uh I don't know

1036
00:46:01,730 --> 00:45:59,460
I don't know I mean you know the

1037
00:46:03,609 --> 00:46:01,740
descriptions that we have received that

1038
00:46:07,010 --> 00:46:03,619
have historically been

1039
00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:07,020
reported it's very similar to a you know

1040
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:08,520
a Bigfoot you know or what people

1041
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,040
describe as a Bigfoot so um

1042
00:46:16,130 --> 00:46:13,680
I don't know if there's there's an alien

1043
00:46:17,809 --> 00:46:16,140
connection there or not but um in those

1044
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:17,819
instances it seems like they're very

1045
00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:24,230
we're gonna this is gonna be a question

1046
00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:27,060
I think what is your what is the case

1047
00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:29,220
that most stands out to you like what is

1048
00:46:32,589 --> 00:46:31,140
you know

1049
00:46:39,770 --> 00:46:32,599
the case

1050
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,829
and it's always been like your case oh

1051
00:46:49,309 --> 00:46:45,119
yeah well this whole yeah this whole

1052
00:46:51,470 --> 00:46:49,319
Chicago Mothman Wing humanoid thing is

1053
00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:51,480
I mean this is the case that keeps on

1054
00:46:55,609 --> 00:46:52,920
giving I mean you know we've been

1055
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:55,619
looking at this now since 2011.

1056
00:47:01,370 --> 00:46:59,040
and of course it kind of died off for a

1057
00:47:02,750 --> 00:47:01,380
while but then in 2017 it really started

1058
00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:02,760
picking up

1059
00:47:07,309 --> 00:47:04,980
and uh

1060
00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:07,319
you know I got real deep into it and

1061
00:47:10,730 --> 00:47:08,520
then

1062
00:47:13,609 --> 00:47:10,740
Emmanuel was that with me from the very

1063
00:47:17,150 --> 00:47:13,619
beginning with it manual navarrette and

1064
00:47:19,569 --> 00:47:17,160
of course uh Tobias Whalen who lives in

1065
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:19,579
Wisconsin just over the Border it was

1066
00:47:24,410 --> 00:47:22,800
you know was looking into it as well so

1067
00:47:26,990 --> 00:47:24,420
we kind of pulled our resources together

1068
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:27,000
and started doing the investigation as a

1069
00:47:30,589 --> 00:47:27,839
trio

1070
00:47:32,210 --> 00:47:30,599
and uh we had a few people with us on

1071
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,220
the way I told you about Bruce Mary

1072
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:35,040
Ellen Godley was part of that but uh

1073
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,920
yeah we'd uh you know like I said it's

1074
00:47:41,930 --> 00:47:39,839
the case that keeps on giving and we

1075
00:47:43,089 --> 00:47:41,940
have had some really bizarre reports

1076
00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:43,099
over the years

1077
00:47:47,809 --> 00:47:45,359
and I think there's an alien connection

1078
00:47:48,829 --> 00:47:47,819
there somehow

1079
00:47:51,650 --> 00:47:48,839
um

1080
00:47:53,210 --> 00:47:51,660
in recent years most of the reports the

1081
00:47:54,349 --> 00:47:53,220
most most of the best reports were

1082
00:47:57,290 --> 00:47:54,359
coming out of O'Hare International

1083
00:47:58,910 --> 00:47:57,300
O'Hara

1084
00:48:00,890 --> 00:47:58,920
I don't know what it is about that

1085
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:00,900
airport there's a lot of weird things

1086
00:48:05,930 --> 00:48:02,880
that happen at airports but O'Hara just

1087
00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:05,940
seems to have that certain aura about it

1088
00:48:11,630 --> 00:48:08,460
where a lot of weird things do happen

1089
00:48:13,309 --> 00:48:11,640
and uh yeah but that's the case I mean

1090
00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:13,319
you know this is the you know when you

1091
00:48:16,910 --> 00:48:15,060
think about it

1092
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:16,920
very rarely

1093
00:48:21,470 --> 00:48:19,020
do you get Cryptid cases in a

1094
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:21,480
metropolitan area and to the degree it

1095
00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:23,359
has been reported

1096
00:48:29,809 --> 00:48:27,540
it's um it's remarkable I mean it's you

1097
00:48:32,089 --> 00:48:29,819
know this just does not happen now of

1098
00:48:35,690 --> 00:48:32,099
course it has spread out into other

1099
00:48:38,450 --> 00:48:35,700
areas into other uh locations

1100
00:48:40,690 --> 00:48:38,460
west south and north of Chicago it's

1101
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:40,700
going up as far north as Milwaukee

1102
00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:43,680
Wisconsin and as far south as almost

1103
00:48:49,309 --> 00:48:46,440
near Indianapolis Indiana and into

1104
00:48:52,010 --> 00:48:49,319
Southern into Central Illinois so it

1105
00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:52,020
it's it's kind of spread out uh we've

1106
00:48:57,050 --> 00:48:54,180
had some sightings also into Michigan

1107
00:49:00,530 --> 00:48:57,060
and some sightings out over the Lake

1108
00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:00,540
Michigan so um yeah it's um you know

1109
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:03,660
there's there's a lot involved with this

1110
00:49:08,030 --> 00:49:06,180
I you know I think we we do think that

1111
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:08,040
there there is an interdimensional

1112
00:49:15,470 --> 00:49:11,040
aspect to these things

1113
00:49:17,089 --> 00:49:15,480
um but you know we really don't know oh

1114
00:49:21,170 --> 00:49:17,099
go ahead

1115
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:21,180
yeah

1116
00:49:27,950 --> 00:49:25,380
now is O'Hare is Denver just as bad as

1117
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,960
O'Hare in terms of Supernatural anything

1118
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:30,480
because I've heard things about Denver

1119
00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:32,480
Airport I believe it's Denver Airport

1120
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:35,880
yeah Denver Airport

1121
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:38,880
is just bizarre

1122
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:39,540
um

1123
00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:42,720
the people who built that put a lot of

1124
00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:45,180
different things into that airport

1125
00:49:49,309 --> 00:49:47,700
that just have the real conspiratorial

1126
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:49,319
aspect to it

1127
00:49:56,750 --> 00:49:53,700
um I I know the Masons had some input on

1128
00:49:59,450 --> 00:49:56,760
that some of the artwork is just really

1129
00:50:02,030 --> 00:49:59,460
bizarre they've got some large murals

1130
00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:02,040
there that are just really out there

1131
00:50:07,849 --> 00:50:05,640
uh I have had people report reptilian

1132
00:50:09,530 --> 00:50:07,859
type activity in the bowels of that

1133
00:50:11,210 --> 00:50:09,540
airport

1134
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:11,220
I've had people

1135
00:50:16,010 --> 00:50:13,920
who have um who have had some weird

1136
00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:16,020
encounters like missing time in the

1137
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:17,160
airport

1138
00:50:22,250 --> 00:50:20,460
so we we do occasionally get a you know

1139
00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:22,260
we do occasionally get a report out of

1140
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:23,700
there

1141
00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:26,160
so uh but that's to the that's about the

1142
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:28,020
extent of what people experience there

1143
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:35,990
yeah do you think maybe like airports

1144
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:37,920
like that no hair they're hubs for

1145
00:50:42,530 --> 00:50:39,900
something like incoming

1146
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:42,540
say like the winged humanoids for O'Hare

1147
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,250
I I just think it's the actual location

1148
00:50:53,809 --> 00:50:51,839
I I think something was there before

1149
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:53,819
they built the airport

1150
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,160
of course you know a hair's got a

1151
00:51:00,650 --> 00:50:57,839
cemetery that's still there there was

1152
00:51:02,450 --> 00:51:00,660
another one there but that was mood

1153
00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:02,460
um has that got something to do but very

1154
00:51:06,349 --> 00:51:03,960
well could be

1155
00:51:08,930 --> 00:51:06,359
um but it just seems to be a

1156
00:51:13,549 --> 00:51:08,940
it just seems to be a hot area uh yeah

1157
00:51:15,470 --> 00:51:13,559
there is leyline activity in that area

1158
00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,480
uh does that is that a contributing

1159
00:51:19,490 --> 00:51:17,460
factoring very well could be as far as

1160
00:51:22,849 --> 00:51:19,500
uh and there are some of the murals from

1161
00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:22,859
uh Denver it's it's really bizarre uh

1162
00:51:26,690 --> 00:51:24,780
I've had people tell me that they have

1163
00:51:30,890 --> 00:51:26,700
stood there and looked at those murals

1164
00:51:32,510 --> 00:51:30,900
and have just lost time and um yeah it's

1165
00:51:34,370 --> 00:51:32,520
it's a weird and I think it's I think

1166
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,380
the location is weird anyway you know

1167
00:51:37,609 --> 00:51:36,000
that airport is not that old it's about

1168
00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:37,619
20 years old

1169
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:39,960
but when they uh when they built this

1170
00:51:45,290 --> 00:51:42,720
airport uh you know the other airport

1171
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:45,300
was I don't know why all of a sudden

1172
00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:46,800
they had to build it like maybe it was

1173
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,040
space but uh yeah it kind of went up

1174
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:52,800
quickly without much

1175
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:55,740
opposition and uh they put a lot of

1176
00:52:09,309 --> 00:51:58,559
weird things into it

1177
00:52:13,490 --> 00:52:11,390
that's weird because you would think

1178
00:52:15,170 --> 00:52:13,500
that they would you know exhume the

1179
00:52:16,609 --> 00:52:15,180
bodies and move them to somewhere else

1180
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,619
so they could

1181
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:18,240
you know because who wants a cemetery

1182
00:52:23,089 --> 00:52:19,740
right there at the airport that's just

1183
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,099
weird to me that really is

1184
00:52:29,870 --> 00:52:25,040
yeah

1185
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:29,880
that cemetery and um

1186
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,119
we've had other humanoid sightings we've

1187
00:52:36,890 --> 00:52:35,520
had the wing humanoid sightings and a

1188
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,900
lot of weird stuff that's happened there

1189
00:52:41,450 --> 00:52:38,640
it's in it it's actually there's court

1190
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:41,460
it's portable large cargo area that

1191
00:52:44,569 --> 00:52:42,720
surrounds it

1192
00:52:48,049 --> 00:52:44,579
so a lot of these people who work in

1193
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,059
those cargo areas have um

1194
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:50,160
you know have had these encounters and

1195
00:53:01,730 --> 00:52:59,690
which is it's just odd it really is so

1196
00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:01,740
what is the case that has made you

1197
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:04,200
almost want to give all this up to hang

1198
00:53:09,410 --> 00:53:06,960
to hang it up and just walk away

1199
00:53:12,049 --> 00:53:09,420
have you had a case like that yeah I did

1200
00:53:14,030 --> 00:53:12,059
have one case like that it was um it was

1201
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:14,040
an induction case

1202
00:53:18,049 --> 00:53:17,160
where uh the individual Acura had talked

1203
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:18,059
to her

1204
00:53:22,609 --> 00:53:20,400
I knew something was going on I knew

1205
00:53:24,829 --> 00:53:22,619
something was wrong but I did find out

1206
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:24,839
later that she was abduct possibly

1207
00:53:31,309 --> 00:53:28,319
abducted and she has never returned

1208
00:53:34,370 --> 00:53:31,319
and uh that was almost a decade ago and

1209
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:34,380
I there's still no indication that she

1210
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:36,420
has come back

1211
00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:38,640
um I have checked with the uh the state

1212
00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:41,460
police happened in Washington State

1213
00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:44,220
and she just vanished out the face of

1214
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:44,940
the Earth

1215
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:47,040
um you know her core was left her

1216
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:49,260
personal effects were left

1217
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,380
and uh they had had you know they had

1218
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:55,200
had some possible alien activity UFO

1219
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:57,359
activity at the time

1220
00:54:02,809 --> 00:54:00,240
and it was ramping up

1221
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:02,819
and then one night her mother found her

1222
00:54:07,970 --> 00:54:05,460
missing she was nowhere to be found

1223
00:54:09,770 --> 00:54:07,980
and you know I was supposed to talk to

1224
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:09,780
her the next day

1225
00:54:14,690 --> 00:54:12,480
and I never got a phone call and her

1226
00:54:17,630 --> 00:54:14,700
mother called me about five days later

1227
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,640
and she told me that she was missing and

1228
00:54:22,609 --> 00:54:20,400
that they're looking for and uh

1229
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,619
but the police at the time thought she

1230
00:54:26,569 --> 00:54:24,000
might have just took off with a

1231
00:54:28,250 --> 00:54:26,579
boyfriend or something which she babes

1232
00:54:31,970 --> 00:54:28,260
out of character with her

1233
00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:31,980
and uh she has not been seen since

1234
00:54:36,589 --> 00:54:34,920
and I I you know I I felt bad about it

1235
00:54:38,569 --> 00:54:36,599
because I had talked to her about three

1236
00:54:40,730 --> 00:54:38,579
hours that evening

1237
00:54:44,210 --> 00:54:40,740
and um

1238
00:54:46,849 --> 00:54:44,220
it kind of left a hole in me I um

1239
00:54:48,589 --> 00:54:46,859
I almost I almost hung up everything I

1240
00:54:51,049 --> 00:54:48,599
just I almost gave up on all of it

1241
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:51,059
because it did affect me until I

1242
00:54:55,790 --> 00:54:53,400
realized that yeah well you know this

1243
00:54:57,770 --> 00:54:55,800
wasn't my fault I mean I could have

1244
00:54:59,329 --> 00:54:57,780
warned her but what would me warning her

1245
00:55:02,329 --> 00:54:59,339
do

1246
00:55:05,089 --> 00:55:02,339
so uh yeah I kind of got over it but

1247
00:55:06,650 --> 00:55:05,099
it's probably affected me as much if not

1248
00:55:14,510 --> 00:55:06,660
more than any other

1249
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,030
yeah what do you think they wanted with

1250
00:55:19,730 --> 00:55:18,720
her like why do you think they picked

1251
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:19,740
her

1252
00:55:24,530 --> 00:55:22,319
in Europe oh why why do they pick

1253
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:24,540
anybody

1254
00:55:30,290 --> 00:55:27,839
um that's the big question why did they

1255
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:30,300
take me why did they take a lot of other

1256
00:55:36,770 --> 00:55:32,160
people why did they take David

1257
00:55:38,210 --> 00:55:36,780
uh you know their motives are unknown

1258
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:38,220
um

1259
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:39,599
is there something to do with

1260
00:55:44,290 --> 00:55:42,960
Generations DNA you know a lot of times

1261
00:55:46,430 --> 00:55:44,300
families

1262
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,440
experience a lot of this through

1263
00:55:52,670 --> 00:55:48,720
generations

1264
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:52,680
uh I I think there's something to that

1265
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:56,400
uh I also believe I personally believe

1266
00:56:00,349 --> 00:55:59,040
that they believe that these beings

1267
00:56:01,790 --> 00:56:00,359
believe

1268
00:56:09,470 --> 00:56:01,800
that

1269
00:56:14,030 --> 00:56:09,480
the belief

1270
00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:14,040
of um of us having a soul having a life

1271
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:17,460
force that extends Beyond life that you

1272
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:20,220
know when they die they die and that

1273
00:56:25,490 --> 00:56:22,319
when humans die

1274
00:56:29,569 --> 00:56:25,500
there seems to be a life force a spirit

1275
00:56:30,530 --> 00:56:29,579
if you may that extends Beyond mortal

1276
00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:30,540
life

1277
00:56:36,410 --> 00:56:33,780
and I think I think that may be an

1278
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:36,420
explanation as to why there are

1279
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:37,920
abductions because I think they're

1280
00:56:50,210 --> 00:56:47,390
I mean that's as good explanation as any

1281
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,220
because it it fascinates me like why

1282
00:56:55,790 --> 00:56:52,079
what makes somebody so special to take

1283
00:56:58,970 --> 00:56:55,800
them as opposed to maybe like you if you

1284
00:57:01,609 --> 00:56:58,980
get taken why why not your wife or if

1285
00:57:04,910 --> 00:57:01,619
you know why not your son or you know

1286
00:57:06,349 --> 00:57:04,920
just it makes you wonder what is

1287
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,359
different about you than like someone

1288
00:57:10,130 --> 00:57:07,680
else in your family who doesn't get

1289
00:57:11,930 --> 00:57:10,140
taken you know

1290
00:57:14,750 --> 00:57:11,940
um Vincent asked does the Paranormal

1291
00:57:17,210 --> 00:57:14,760
take a toll on you would you warn people

1292
00:57:19,010 --> 00:57:17,220
about getting into the field that's a

1293
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,020
really good question

1294
00:57:23,809 --> 00:57:21,119
I think it has taken a toll on me excuse

1295
00:57:29,329 --> 00:57:25,670
I think it has taken a toll on me

1296
00:57:31,549 --> 00:57:29,339
physically and maybe a bit mentally

1297
00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:31,559
but um

1298
00:57:38,569 --> 00:57:34,980
I have had psychic attacks uh I had been

1299
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:38,579
injured during removed views and cases

1300
00:57:43,010 --> 00:57:41,760
so that's the physical side of it

1301
00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:43,020
um

1302
00:57:48,109 --> 00:57:45,420
you know when I when I started working

1303
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:48,119
with people a lot of the people I was

1304
00:57:51,730 --> 00:57:49,920
working with the people that got into

1305
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,740
the Paranormal

1306
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,480
calling himself paranormal investigators

1307
00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:55,920
and then getting themselves in trouble

1308
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,140
and picking up attachments

1309
00:58:02,329 --> 00:58:00,240
and then they call us wanting to know

1310
00:58:04,490 --> 00:58:02,339
what the hell happened why are they

1311
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,500
experiencing this stuff and

1312
00:58:08,750 --> 00:58:06,720
I mean the simple answer is they didn't

1313
00:58:10,370 --> 00:58:08,760
protect themselves and they let

1314
00:58:11,930 --> 00:58:10,380
themselves wide open

1315
00:58:14,809 --> 00:58:11,940
for an attachment

1316
00:58:16,609 --> 00:58:14,819
and that's what happens a lot of times

1317
00:58:19,970 --> 00:58:16,619
um

1318
00:58:23,089 --> 00:58:19,980
so you know I I believe that anybody

1319
00:58:25,130 --> 00:58:23,099
that gets involved with the Paranormal

1320
00:58:29,089 --> 00:58:25,140
needs to learn how to protect themselves

1321
00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:29,099
and it's just not fun in games this is a

1322
00:58:36,410 --> 00:58:32,040
very serious thing there are forces out

1323
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:36,420
there that people just can't control and

1324
00:58:39,650 --> 00:58:37,680
they need to learn how to protect

1325
00:58:41,089 --> 00:58:39,660
themselves and uh if they don't they're

1326
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:41,099
going to get in trouble themselves and

1327
00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:51,829
yeah I mean I I agree with you and you

1328
00:58:56,569 --> 00:58:53,880
you know people see this stuff on TV and

1329
00:58:59,210 --> 00:58:56,579
they think oh just a joke until it's not

1330
00:59:00,289 --> 00:58:59,220
a joke until bad things start to happen

1331
00:59:03,589 --> 00:59:00,299
to them

1332
00:59:05,450 --> 00:59:03,599
you know and I've had people say to me

1333
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:05,460
well I wish I could see what you see no

1334
00:59:11,329 --> 00:59:07,920
no you don't like when people say that I

1335
00:59:13,069 --> 00:59:11,339
cringe yeah no you you don't or you

1336
00:59:15,470 --> 00:59:13,079
don't want to hear what I hear things

1337
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:15,480
and it does it makes me cringe as

1338
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:17,760
somebody who can see things that has

1339
00:59:21,950 --> 00:59:19,680
seen things like you don't want to see

1340
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:21,960
this stuff like you don't want to be you

1341
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:23,640
know like seven eight years old with

1342
00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:26,160
that a hat man which I didn't know at

1343
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,460
the time like leaning over your bed

1344
00:59:33,530 --> 00:59:31,680
like you you don't want like a strange

1345
00:59:36,349 --> 00:59:33,540
man at that age sitting over your bed

1346
00:59:37,789 --> 00:59:36,359
and then just you know it was it was you

1347
00:59:41,569 --> 00:59:37,799
don't want that but oh you have the

1348
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:41,579
people who do I yeah uh so mortal clown

1349
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,119
asks how does uh the Paranormal work to

1350
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:48,000
make your life better

1351
00:59:50,750 --> 00:59:49,680
yeah that sounds like a question coming

1352
00:59:53,930 --> 00:59:50,760
from her

1353
00:59:59,230 --> 00:59:53,940
uh I know her personally

1354
01:00:04,250 --> 01:00:02,030
yeah it's made it more it's made it more

1355
01:00:06,589 --> 01:00:04,260
interesting

1356
01:00:12,170 --> 01:00:09,170
I I don't know if it's made it better I

1357
01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:12,180
I it has made it more interesting I I've

1358
01:00:17,210 --> 01:00:14,160
probably

1359
01:00:19,010 --> 01:00:17,220
that you know that's a tough question I

1360
01:00:20,569 --> 01:00:19,020
can't really say it's made it better but

1361
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:20,579
it has made it more interesting and I've

1362
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:23,640
learned a lot I mean you know

1363
01:00:28,609 --> 01:00:25,920
if you've been involved with this the

1364
01:00:32,329 --> 01:00:28,619
way I have been you do learn and uh it

1365
01:00:33,650 --> 01:00:32,339
has led to certain things down the road

1366
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:33,660
um

1367
01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:36,240
I don't know if notoriety is a good

1368
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:39,480
thing in some point at some point um

1369
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:41,040
but

1370
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:44,400
um you know one thing that I I do know

1371
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,040
it has allowed me to go out there and to

1372
01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:48,960
express myself and express my

1373
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:51,480
experiences and to give my thoughts as

1374
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:54,900
to what's going on and um

1375
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:57,359
yeah and I've had the opportunity to

1376
01:01:03,230 --> 01:01:00,480
help people as well so um

1377
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:03,240
and and she knows I I've um

1378
01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:05,760
I've helped a lot of people and her and

1379
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:07,799
I have talked about this before as well

1380
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:11,040
so yeah it you know when you when you do

1381
01:01:16,430 --> 01:01:13,920
that when you get involved with a case

1382
01:01:19,789 --> 01:01:16,440
uh especially a case with kids

1383
01:01:23,530 --> 01:01:19,799
and you can you can help them and to

1384
01:01:25,069 --> 01:01:23,540
alleviate their their pain and suffering

1385
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,079
uh

1386
01:01:29,329 --> 01:01:27,359
that is worth it it really is I mean

1387
01:01:30,130 --> 01:01:29,339
that's a feeling that it's hard to

1388
01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:30,140
express

1389
01:01:34,609 --> 01:01:32,700
and uh I've been lucky enough to

1390
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:34,619
experience that so if you know if that

1391
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:36,480
has changed my life then yeah that

1392
01:01:48,410 --> 01:01:45,349
yeah

1393
01:01:49,490 --> 01:01:48,420
and I've been since Ted he said I think

1394
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,500
I could

1395
01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:51,599
speak from us to everyone I think you've

1396
01:01:55,730 --> 01:01:52,799
helped

1397
01:01:57,470 --> 01:01:55,740
at least each one of us in the chat like

1398
01:01:59,390 --> 01:01:57,480
myself included

1399
01:02:02,510 --> 01:01:59,400
I mean you're just you're very very

1400
01:02:04,609 --> 01:02:02,520
appreciate to help so yeah

1401
01:02:06,770 --> 01:02:04,619
I appreciate that

1402
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:06,780
what is before I asked David Jones

1403
01:02:11,930 --> 01:02:09,119
question if you could go back what is

1404
01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:11,940
one thing that you oh no it's it's the

1405
01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:14,520
truth one trust me if you could go back

1406
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:16,260
was one thing you would change about

1407
01:02:20,990 --> 01:02:18,000
being an investigator

1408
01:02:24,589 --> 01:02:21,000
knowing what you know now

1409
01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:24,599
um I I had a problem taking a a more

1410
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:28,680
a better approach early on uh it was

1411
01:02:32,930 --> 01:02:30,240
like you know

1412
01:02:35,150 --> 01:02:32,940
I had to go through the hard knocks of

1413
01:02:37,849 --> 01:02:35,160
the whole thing early on

1414
01:02:39,530 --> 01:02:37,859
I you know I have

1415
01:02:41,329 --> 01:02:39,540
you know I started doing this back in

1416
01:02:42,130 --> 01:02:41,339
the late 70s and I you know there have

1417
01:02:49,450 --> 01:02:42,140
been

1418
01:02:52,370 --> 01:02:49,460
where I did some really stupid things

1419
01:02:54,109 --> 01:02:52,380
and I know better now I did know better

1420
01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:54,119
back then but I still did it but you

1421
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:55,740
know that's being young so when you're

1422
01:02:58,430 --> 01:02:57,359
young you're stupid so you do stupid

1423
01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:58,440
stuff

1424
01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:00,960
I I think a lot of that I would not have

1425
01:03:04,490 --> 01:03:02,400
done now

1426
01:03:06,650 --> 01:03:04,500
but you live and learn and uh it's just

1427
01:03:08,990 --> 01:03:06,660
like anything else I mean the experience

1428
01:03:13,849 --> 01:03:09,000
you know that that's part of doing this

1429
01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:13,859
and uh that's why I um

1430
01:03:20,329 --> 01:03:17,280
that's why I tried to to still

1431
01:03:21,890 --> 01:03:20,339
and try to help people with uh with what

1432
01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:21,900
they you know what they encounter and

1433
01:03:26,569 --> 01:03:23,940
people who do want to do this

1434
01:03:30,430 --> 01:03:26,579
uh to kind of give them an idea what

1435
01:03:37,309 --> 01:03:33,349
David Jones wants to know will you be

1436
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:39,950
I you know I known David for

1437
01:03:43,730 --> 01:03:42,000
a long time over a decade I've never

1438
01:03:47,089 --> 01:03:43,740
been there

1439
01:03:49,069 --> 01:03:47,099
he has asked me to come there

1440
01:04:02,510 --> 01:03:49,079
I

1441
01:04:04,990 --> 01:04:02,520
um

1442
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:05,000
I will be prepared

1443
01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:08,160
you know you know that you know I'll

1444
01:04:11,690 --> 01:04:10,260
tell you when I was when my wife was

1445
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,700
still alive

1446
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:13,680
I was working with David I would work on

1447
01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:15,359
a lot of people but particularly with

1448
01:04:20,089 --> 01:04:19,260
David uh she did not want me going down

1449
01:04:22,730 --> 01:04:20,099
there

1450
01:04:25,250 --> 01:04:22,740
because she knew what was going on

1451
01:04:26,809 --> 01:04:25,260
uh there was one time where I was

1452
01:04:28,370 --> 01:04:26,819
seriously thinking about going down

1453
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:28,380
there but I promised her I wouldn't go

1454
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:30,720
down there and in fact when I wrote the

1455
01:04:34,910 --> 01:04:33,119
book the book alien disclosure she

1456
01:04:38,329 --> 01:04:34,920
didn't want me to write that

1457
01:04:41,390 --> 01:04:38,339
uh that book that book came out at and I

1458
01:04:43,490 --> 01:04:41,400
wrote that book after she passed so

1459
01:04:45,410 --> 01:04:43,500
um yeah I mean come to a point where I

1460
01:04:48,530 --> 01:04:45,420
will go see David in person

1461
01:04:51,530 --> 01:04:48,540
and uh well maybe something will happen

1462
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:51,540
maybe you know I'll have a personal

1463
01:04:56,030 --> 01:04:53,520
experience I you know I I'll be honest

1464
01:04:58,670 --> 01:04:56,040
with you I think if I do go down to

1465
01:05:01,010 --> 01:04:58,680
David's it's going to be it's going to

1466
01:05:02,569 --> 01:05:01,020
be interesting and uh I think things

1467
01:05:05,569 --> 01:05:02,579
will open up

1468
01:05:07,250 --> 01:05:05,579
um and I know mortal clown is does not

1469
01:05:09,410 --> 01:05:07,260
want me to go she has warned me about

1470
01:05:11,210 --> 01:05:09,420
going down there

1471
01:05:15,530 --> 01:05:11,220
um

1472
01:05:18,109 --> 01:05:15,540
she thinks David's kind of over his head

1473
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:18,119
I don't know I I'm I'm still debating it

1474
01:05:30,109 --> 01:05:27,829
I agree with you I think they might be

1475
01:05:32,349 --> 01:05:30,119
waiting for you if you get down there so

1476
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:32,359
maybe take things

1477
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:36,240
this way this way you're safe yeah I'll

1478
01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:38,160
put I put him in front and he'll take

1479
01:05:41,410 --> 01:05:39,720
the Flack yeah

1480
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:41,420
thank you

1481
01:05:46,250 --> 01:05:43,920
there you go just be like here take

1482
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:46,260
Vincent there he'll be the decoy give me

1483
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:47,050
the decoy yeah

1484
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:53,510
it's Nest have you ever had any

1485
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,920
experiences with extraterrestrials since

1486
01:06:05,089 --> 01:05:57,839
your first encounter

1487
01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:06,710
I think I may very well have been

1488
01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:09,900
abducting but I cannot recall it uh I I

1489
01:06:17,150 --> 01:06:14,640
am not a fan of uh hypnotic regression

1490
01:06:19,970 --> 01:06:17,160
uh I've seen too many

1491
01:06:21,710 --> 01:06:19,980
bad experiences because I have witnessed

1492
01:06:24,109 --> 01:06:21,720
several

1493
01:06:26,569 --> 01:06:24,119
and uh I don't think I want to put

1494
01:06:28,430 --> 01:06:26,579
myself through that so if I do recall it

1495
01:06:30,289 --> 01:06:28,440
later on down the road then fine but

1496
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:30,299
until then I I just think I'm gonna let

1497
01:06:39,410 --> 01:06:37,430
you don't want to be regressed or I

1498
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:39,420
think that's what's called regressed to

1499
01:06:43,309 --> 01:06:42,240
find out what went on yeah I'm not a fan

1500
01:06:46,730 --> 01:06:43,319
of it

1501
01:06:51,230 --> 01:06:46,740
know

1502
01:06:52,490 --> 01:06:51,240
regressions I'm not saying they're not

1503
01:06:54,589 --> 01:06:52,500
I'm not saying that they're not

1504
01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:54,599
professional but

1505
01:06:58,609 --> 01:06:57,420
different people react to these things

1506
01:07:00,349 --> 01:06:58,619
um

1507
01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:00,359
in different ways

1508
01:07:04,730 --> 01:07:03,480
and it's not all you know it's not all

1509
01:07:06,430 --> 01:07:04,740
um

1510
01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:06,440
you know

1511
01:07:19,730 --> 01:07:17,510
yeah and I I would I would I don't think

1512
01:07:21,890 --> 01:07:19,740
I would want to do that either that I

1513
01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:21,900
think that would be a little scary

1514
01:07:25,490 --> 01:07:22,980
um

1515
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:25,500
so in your book because I did I did get

1516
01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:27,599
a chance off Kindle unlimited to read

1517
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:29,400
your book alien disclosure

1518
01:07:33,410 --> 01:07:31,920
you had a story in there about a

1519
01:07:36,650 --> 01:07:33,420
gentleman I believe he was in the

1520
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:36,660
military and he had seen something he

1521
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,559
came back and he had told his wife that

1522
01:07:45,170 --> 01:07:42,240
they were going to take him

1523
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:45,180
and in the end he basically I don't know

1524
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:46,680
how YouTube is so I'm gonna say it this

1525
01:07:50,930 --> 01:07:48,720
way he analyzed himself

1526
01:07:52,670 --> 01:07:50,940
and he had left her a note basically

1527
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:52,680
saying that they had come the day before

1528
01:07:59,710 --> 01:07:54,960
to tell him that he was going with them

1529
01:08:04,930 --> 01:08:03,770
he was stationed at Fort Campbell down

1530
01:08:08,329 --> 01:08:04,940
in Kentucky

1531
01:08:11,089 --> 01:08:08,339
uh and he um

1532
01:08:13,150 --> 01:08:11,099
something that happened to him now

1533
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:13,160
I don't know exactly what

1534
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,759
but he told his wife eventually that and

1535
01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:19,679
I don't know if they contacted him what

1536
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:22,799
he told her she'd be he'd be leaving

1537
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:25,199
he wouldn't he didn't go into any uh

1538
01:08:30,289 --> 01:08:26,640
details

1539
01:08:32,450 --> 01:08:30,299
but she knew the um

1540
01:08:34,130 --> 01:08:32,460
she knew pretty well what it may have

1541
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,140
what may happen

1542
01:08:38,930 --> 01:08:36,480
and um

1543
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:38,940
it got to the point where he just offed

1544
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,440
himself

1545
01:08:45,410 --> 01:08:42,480
yeah I think he I think he was fearful

1546
01:08:49,070 --> 01:08:45,420
what would happen with his family

1547
01:08:50,689 --> 01:08:49,080
so um you know if he thought it was

1548
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:50,699
going to be abducted

1549
01:08:56,150 --> 01:08:53,160
and uh how can you how can his wife

1550
01:08:59,090 --> 01:08:56,160
explain that to the military or you know

1551
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:59,100
I I think he did that to be able for her

1552
01:09:03,229 --> 01:09:00,719
to claim his pen to her you know the

1553
01:09:05,450 --> 01:09:03,239
pension he had

1554
01:09:08,030 --> 01:09:05,460
um coming to her so I think you know he

1555
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:08,040
was fearful for his family's safety and

1556
01:09:16,030 --> 01:09:11,040
life and I think that's why he uh he

1557
01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:18,890
see I was going to ask you though if you

1558
01:09:26,030 --> 01:09:20,699
had a theory about why they were going

1559
01:09:29,090 --> 01:09:26,040
to take him or any of that something

1560
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:29,100
it's just he's so afraid that they were

1561
01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:30,319
[Music]

1562
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:33,359
yeah he he was fearful

1563
01:09:37,849 --> 01:09:35,279
um

1564
01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:37,859
you know it was it was an encounter it

1565
01:09:41,749 --> 01:09:40,020
was something that happened on the base

1566
01:09:46,669 --> 01:09:41,759
previous to that

1567
01:09:48,650 --> 01:09:46,679
and uh he was very general about it and

1568
01:09:51,410 --> 01:09:48,660
uh I I think

1569
01:09:55,010 --> 01:09:51,420
he may have had an experience

1570
01:09:57,470 --> 01:09:55,020
while earlier on possibly during combat

1571
01:09:59,990 --> 01:09:57,480
at some point you know there's a lot of

1572
01:10:01,850 --> 01:10:00,000
there's a lot of these veterans combat

1573
01:10:03,550 --> 01:10:01,860
veterans who have had some bizarre

1574
01:10:05,930 --> 01:10:03,560
experiences

1575
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:05,940
and a lot of times they just can't

1576
01:10:08,450 --> 01:10:07,199
handle it

1577
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:08,460
um you know I've heard all kinds of

1578
01:10:12,830 --> 01:10:11,040
stories coming out of Vietnam I heard a

1579
01:10:14,650 --> 01:10:12,840
lot of stories coming out of Iraq and

1580
01:10:17,570 --> 01:10:14,660
Afghanistan

1581
01:10:21,410 --> 01:10:17,580
uh even a few in Korea

1582
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:21,420
so uh you know I I think conflict

1583
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:23,840
attracts

1584
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:28,400
other worldly beings

1585
01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:29,940
and

1586
01:10:34,910 --> 01:10:32,460
um I think at some point they try to get

1587
01:10:36,290 --> 01:10:34,920
involved somehow but I think when they

1588
01:10:39,709 --> 01:10:36,300
do that

1589
01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:39,719
it affects those that are

1590
01:10:46,250 --> 01:10:44,040
doing the actual fighting and um I think

1591
01:10:48,830 --> 01:10:46,260
that's what happened to him and uh you

1592
01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:48,840
know I think yeah

1593
01:10:52,130 --> 01:10:50,580
but it does happen you know and I've

1594
01:10:55,490 --> 01:10:52,140
written a lot of stuff about it aren't

1595
01:11:00,830 --> 01:10:58,550
aren't there UFOs being seen

1596
01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:00,840
over Ukraine crane Ukraine or it's being

1597
01:11:04,729 --> 01:11:03,300
seen like they're seeing them now as the

1598
01:11:06,649 --> 01:11:04,739
war is going on

1599
01:11:08,030 --> 01:11:06,659
yeah there have been some slightly you

1600
01:11:10,669 --> 01:11:08,040
have to wonder like if they're trying to

1601
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:10,679
get him like you said

1602
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:13,679
yeah oh I I think I've been trying to

1603
01:11:19,070 --> 01:11:15,600
get involved like you said

1604
01:11:21,290 --> 01:11:19,080
I I think all conflict on Earth

1605
01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:21,300
has had some involvement with the other

1606
01:11:25,550 --> 01:11:23,219
worldly ones um

1607
01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:25,560
to some degree you know we talk about

1608
01:11:29,870 --> 01:11:27,659
World War II and the Foo Fighters and

1609
01:11:31,310 --> 01:11:29,880
all that happened over Europe there was

1610
01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:31,320
something out there

1611
01:11:34,490 --> 01:11:32,040
um

1612
01:11:37,130 --> 01:11:34,500
you know I've heard of UFO sightings as

1613
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:37,140
far back as a revolutionary war that you

1614
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:38,880
know they saw something they saw

1615
01:11:43,729 --> 01:11:42,000
apparitions they saw beings that they

1616
01:11:45,290 --> 01:11:43,739
interpreted as just ghosts they didn't

1617
01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:45,300
know anything about alien beings or

1618
01:11:50,510 --> 01:11:48,239
anything what you know uh I think it has

1619
01:11:51,770 --> 01:11:50,520
happened throughout history

1620
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:51,780
um

1621
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:54,719
during the Civil War as well

1622
01:12:00,890 --> 01:11:57,840
uh these the these soldiers I I used to

1623
01:12:03,649 --> 01:12:00,900
I used to collect a lot of soldier

1624
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:03,659
letters that they sent back home

1625
01:12:09,410 --> 01:12:06,960
and uh occasionally something would come

1626
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:09,420
up to where they saw an orb or something

1627
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,000
that they described as an orb or they

1628
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:13,920
thought they saw a ghost to someone they

1629
01:12:18,530 --> 01:12:16,080
recognized or a ghost of someone they

1630
01:12:20,450 --> 01:12:18,540
didn't recognize

1631
01:12:23,090 --> 01:12:20,460
um there has been Bigfoot activity

1632
01:12:25,070 --> 01:12:23,100
reported by Civil War soldiers on both

1633
01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:25,080
sides

1634
01:12:30,050 --> 01:12:26,340
um

1635
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:30,060
so paranormal just goes hand in hand you

1636
01:12:32,570 --> 01:12:31,440
know just goes hand in hand with

1637
01:12:40,370 --> 01:12:32,580
conflict

1638
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:42,229
I wonder they're they're trying to get

1639
01:12:50,330 --> 01:12:45,600
involved to stop it or to just

1640
01:12:52,970 --> 01:12:50,340
be witness to it or what's your theory

1641
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:55,729
you know I I think since um

1642
01:13:00,290 --> 01:12:58,080
ever since the use of nuclear weapons

1643
01:13:01,910 --> 01:13:00,300
during the end of World War II I think

1644
01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:01,920
they've come more involved with it that

1645
01:13:07,010 --> 01:13:04,260
they don't want to see that happen again

1646
01:13:10,010 --> 01:13:07,020
uh I I think of it I think if it comes

1647
01:13:12,410 --> 01:13:10,020
to a point where some country or

1648
01:13:14,810 --> 01:13:12,420
countries start

1649
01:13:16,490 --> 01:13:14,820
using nuclear weapons they may very well

1650
01:13:20,209 --> 01:13:16,500
step in

1651
01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:20,219
I think the um I I think the being the

1652
01:13:29,090 --> 01:13:24,080
alien beings that people see today

1653
01:13:31,910 --> 01:13:29,100
or evolved humans from their their past

1654
01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:31,920
or evolved humans from our future

1655
01:13:37,310 --> 01:13:34,920
and I think they have come back

1656
01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:37,320
to either stop conflict or stop some

1657
01:13:43,490 --> 01:13:40,860
type of cataclysm from happening

1658
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,500
that has caused their evolution to

1659
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:45,360
change somehow

1660
01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:48,480
uh I I truly believe that I really do I

1661
01:13:53,689 --> 01:13:50,400
I think that they have the ability to go

1662
01:13:56,090 --> 01:13:53,699
back in time uh either through some type

1663
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:56,100
of Wormhole or however they do it time

1664
01:13:58,689 --> 01:13:57,360
travel

1665
01:14:02,209 --> 01:13:58,699
per se

1666
01:14:03,290 --> 01:14:02,219
but I think that's why people do see

1667
01:14:05,450 --> 01:14:03,300
them

1668
01:14:08,209 --> 01:14:05,460
and I think that they are are living

1669
01:14:10,490 --> 01:14:08,219
among us in some degree

1670
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,500
uh

1671
01:14:14,270 --> 01:14:12,719
and I I think they're here

1672
01:14:17,090 --> 01:14:14,280
to monitor

1673
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:17,100
uh and that they know the history and

1674
01:14:21,530 --> 01:14:18,719
that they they will do everything they

1675
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:21,540
can to change history if it turns out to

1676
01:14:25,250 --> 01:14:24,000
be like that that's why I'm not really

1677
01:14:28,669 --> 01:14:25,260
afraid of

1678
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,679
you know this may sound naive but that's

1679
01:14:32,750 --> 01:14:30,960
why I'm not really afraid of a nuclear

1680
01:14:37,790 --> 01:14:32,760
conflict because I think something like

1681
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:43,130
mm-hmm

1682
01:14:48,110 --> 01:14:45,709
that's yeah that's very interesting like

1683
01:14:49,790 --> 01:14:48,120
I you have to wonder like I I tend to

1684
01:14:52,910 --> 01:14:49,800
agree with you like are they are they

1685
01:14:54,890 --> 01:14:52,920
Time Travelers like from either the past

1686
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:54,900
or the future Maybe

1687
01:14:59,450 --> 01:14:56,880
because there's there's been people

1688
01:15:01,070 --> 01:14:59,460
saying you know there's been I I don't

1689
01:15:02,930 --> 01:15:01,080
know what they're called because I don't

1690
01:15:05,630 --> 01:15:02,940
know much about aliens but they're

1691
01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:05,640
blonde they look human I don't know the

1692
01:15:09,290 --> 01:15:08,100
names but there's there's been sightings

1693
01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:09,300
of them

1694
01:15:16,130 --> 01:15:13,560
yeah I I think so they look like us then

1695
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:16,140
yeah I think the human species is a

1696
01:15:21,770 --> 01:15:18,960
universal I think the human species

1697
01:15:22,970 --> 01:15:21,780
is a universal species in other words I

1698
01:15:25,729 --> 01:15:22,980
think

1699
01:15:27,649 --> 01:15:25,739
that our universe or our known universe

1700
01:15:30,890 --> 01:15:27,659
is inhabited

1701
01:15:34,729 --> 01:15:30,900
by human-like beings

1702
01:15:37,370 --> 01:15:34,739
and I think those those you know

1703
01:15:39,530 --> 01:15:37,380
people talk about alien beings that are

1704
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:39,540
always got a humanoid type form arms

1705
01:15:43,310 --> 01:15:41,280
legs head you know very similar to

1706
01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:43,320
humans though it's it's different

1707
01:15:50,090 --> 01:15:46,980
I I think those beings are you evolved

1708
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,100
from possibly us or we evolved from them

1709
01:15:54,290 --> 01:15:52,800
but I think that there is and I think

1710
01:15:56,510 --> 01:15:54,300
there's some

1711
01:16:01,250 --> 01:15:56,520
possible evidence to that

1712
01:16:05,330 --> 01:16:01,260
that the human the human species

1713
01:16:10,850 --> 01:16:05,340
is a is a universal species

1714
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:10,860
and uh as far as our evolution

1715
01:16:14,930 --> 01:16:13,199
on this planet I think there has been

1716
01:16:18,410 --> 01:16:14,940
intervention

1717
01:16:19,729 --> 01:16:18,420
I think there are there are skips in the

1718
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:19,739
timeline

1719
01:16:23,570 --> 01:16:21,360
you know they used to always talk about

1720
01:16:25,370 --> 01:16:23,580
well the missing link and this and that

1721
01:16:27,890 --> 01:16:25,380
yeah there very well could have been

1722
01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:27,900
early man or early humans but I think

1723
01:16:33,709 --> 01:16:29,940
I I think there has been intervention

1724
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,370
um

1725
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:36,480
even with other animals I think some

1726
01:16:42,530 --> 01:16:39,120
animals have also been

1727
01:16:44,770 --> 01:16:42,540
you know have also been modified or you

1728
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:44,780
know there's been some interjection

1729
01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:48,239
uh so um

1730
01:16:52,970 --> 01:16:51,060
yeah I don't think there's I think I do

1731
01:16:55,070 --> 01:16:52,980
believe in evolution to a degree but I

1732
01:16:56,450 --> 01:16:55,080
think there is intelligent design to

1733
01:16:59,390 --> 01:16:56,460
another degree

1734
01:17:01,790 --> 01:16:59,400
uh I I think a good organ that could be

1735
01:17:03,169 --> 01:17:01,800
made for most and you know when I grew

1736
01:17:05,570 --> 01:17:03,179
up when I was growing up I believe

1737
01:17:07,610 --> 01:17:05,580
entirely on evolution

1738
01:17:09,950 --> 01:17:07,620
but um

1739
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:09,960
you know you look into this you do this

1740
01:17:12,350 --> 01:17:11,460
for a number of years you work with

1741
01:17:14,750 --> 01:17:12,360
people

1742
01:17:16,850 --> 01:17:14,760
you document what they see and what they

1743
01:17:18,350 --> 01:17:16,860
experience and you you've gotta you

1744
01:17:20,110 --> 01:17:18,360
eventually start thinking you know

1745
01:17:23,330 --> 01:17:20,120
there's something more to this

1746
01:17:25,550 --> 01:17:23,340
and uh

1747
01:17:29,930 --> 01:17:25,560
that you know that there has been

1748
01:17:34,910 --> 01:17:31,850
yeah

1749
01:17:36,649 --> 01:17:34,920
a little handling and everything I here

1750
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:36,659
and there I believe that I truly do

1751
01:17:41,630 --> 01:17:39,120
because some of the stuff that that

1752
01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:41,640
happens you just have to look at like

1753
01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:44,640
it just seems so Advanced at times you

1754
01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:45,600
know

1755
01:17:49,850 --> 01:17:48,239
my other question for you is when do you

1756
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:49,860
think the gov it's it's the same

1757
01:17:53,090 --> 01:17:51,120
question I'm sure you get all the time

1758
01:17:54,950 --> 01:17:53,100
when do you think the government will do

1759
01:17:58,370 --> 01:17:54,960
full disclosure

1760
01:18:05,149 --> 01:18:02,090
um unless unless it's need to be I mean

1761
01:18:07,070 --> 01:18:05,159
in other words if if they land on the

1762
01:18:09,169 --> 01:18:07,080
White House lawner on the the mall in

1763
01:18:10,910 --> 01:18:09,179
Washington yeah then they may they may

1764
01:18:13,550 --> 01:18:10,920
have no choice but to say that there's

1765
01:18:15,709 --> 01:18:13,560
something going on you know they they

1766
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:15,719
are kind of spoon feeding us with the

1767
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:17,040
UFO

1768
01:18:20,810 --> 01:18:19,199
reports I mean these are reports that

1769
01:18:22,610 --> 01:18:20,820
have been out there for a long time that

1770
01:18:23,930 --> 01:18:22,620
just was never really part of the public

1771
01:18:26,590 --> 01:18:23,940
knowledge

1772
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:26,600
uh people have been involved with UFO

1773
01:18:30,830 --> 01:18:29,520
investigations and activity knew of a

1774
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:30,840
lot of this stuff

1775
01:18:35,810 --> 01:18:33,840
and uh I think we're being spoon fit but

1776
01:18:39,530 --> 01:18:35,820
as far as alien beings other worldly

1777
01:18:41,209 --> 01:18:39,540
beings uh evolved humans

1778
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:41,219
I don't think that's gonna happen until

1779
01:18:50,030 --> 01:18:43,679
it would absolutely have to be you know

1780
01:18:54,110 --> 01:18:52,010
do you think people would be ready for

1781
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:54,120
it like accept it as

1782
01:18:57,290 --> 01:18:55,440
population

1783
01:19:02,209 --> 01:18:57,300
nope

1784
01:19:04,010 --> 01:19:02,219
part I would think there would be one

1785
01:19:05,930 --> 01:19:04,020
part that would accept it

1786
01:19:07,430 --> 01:19:05,940
I think there'd be a greater part that

1787
01:19:10,250 --> 01:19:07,440
would freak out

1788
01:19:13,010 --> 01:19:10,260
and uh the last thing

1789
01:19:16,010 --> 01:19:13,020
that any government wants is mass

1790
01:19:18,709 --> 01:19:16,020
hysteria because they can't control that

1791
01:19:22,250 --> 01:19:18,719
and uh that's why they're not going to

1792
01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:27,590
right no I agree I mean look how

1793
01:19:32,270 --> 01:19:30,050
fighting over toilet paper how would we

1794
01:19:34,970 --> 01:19:32,280
handle like an alien invasion I mean or

1795
01:19:37,130 --> 01:19:34,980
daily and not even an invasion but you

1796
01:19:39,050 --> 01:19:37,140
know full disclosure like would some of

1797
01:19:40,850 --> 01:19:39,060
us would just lose our minds come

1798
01:19:44,030 --> 01:19:40,860
completely well I just look at the

1799
01:19:47,390 --> 01:19:44,040
pandemic I mean the pandemic was utter

1800
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:47,400
chaos worldwide uh different governments

1801
01:19:52,430 --> 01:19:50,159
handled in different ways but it

1802
01:19:54,649 --> 01:19:52,440
affected us and it will affect us for

1803
01:19:57,229 --> 01:19:54,659
years to come

1804
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:57,239
um they they probably have a better way

1805
01:20:01,490 --> 01:19:59,760
of handling if it happens again

1806
01:20:03,229 --> 01:20:01,500
but it was something new and that's

1807
01:20:06,110 --> 01:20:03,239
exactly what would happen if we had

1808
01:20:07,610 --> 01:20:06,120
alien disclosure at some point uh I

1809
01:20:09,890 --> 01:20:07,620
think the closest we're going to get to

1810
01:20:12,890 --> 01:20:09,900
alien disclosures by people reporting

1811
01:20:14,689 --> 01:20:12,900
what they encounter uh experiences are

1812
01:20:16,790 --> 01:20:14,699
going to have to give us are going to

1813
01:20:19,250 --> 01:20:16,800
have to give us what reality is is

1814
01:20:20,090 --> 01:20:19,260
actually out there and

1815
01:20:23,209 --> 01:20:20,100
um

1816
01:20:25,490 --> 01:20:23,219
you know for people to come forward

1817
01:20:27,410 --> 01:20:25,500
and brave enough to come forward and for

1818
01:20:28,970 --> 01:20:27,420
investigators to be brave enough to put

1819
01:20:30,350 --> 01:20:28,980
it out there I think that's what you're

1820
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:30,360
going to get that's as far as you're

1821
01:20:37,370 --> 01:20:31,679
going to get

1822
01:20:41,810 --> 01:20:39,649
yeah and I I like what you said for

1823
01:20:43,970 --> 01:20:41,820
experiences who are brave enough to come

1824
01:20:46,010 --> 01:20:43,980
forward because it is a brave thing to

1825
01:20:48,290 --> 01:20:46,020
come forward it's Brave that you've had

1826
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:48,300
this experience and to like go to

1827
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:50,880
somebody like you or like Vincent or

1828
01:20:54,830 --> 01:20:52,800
anyone else who's a researcher and say

1829
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,840
this is my experience this is what

1830
01:20:58,610 --> 01:20:56,400
happened

1831
01:21:00,350 --> 01:20:58,620
and then hold your breath like waiting

1832
01:21:02,090 --> 01:21:00,360
oh there and then when they don't say

1833
01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:02,100
you're crazy

1834
01:21:07,970 --> 01:21:05,520
like Rush of relief and like you've

1835
01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:07,980
heard this before or you understand me

1836
01:21:13,850 --> 01:21:12,239
you know that I that was I think a good

1837
01:21:15,649 --> 01:21:13,860
thing that you just said that too like

1838
01:21:17,330 --> 01:21:15,659
that yeah

1839
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:17,340
and what would you tell somebody who's

1840
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:19,199
had an experience and looking to come

1841
01:21:26,209 --> 01:21:22,560
forward to speak to somebody like you

1842
01:21:29,149 --> 01:21:26,219
thank you well you know I I'm pretty

1843
01:21:31,610 --> 01:21:29,159
open with the people I talk to

1844
01:21:33,709 --> 01:21:31,620
um you know I try I try to call them

1845
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:33,719
their fears I I tell them that I will

1846
01:21:39,169 --> 01:21:36,480
not disclose any personal information

1847
01:21:41,810 --> 01:21:39,179
uh uh what what information they don't

1848
01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:41,820
want me to disclose you know let me know

1849
01:21:47,390 --> 01:21:44,400
I'm you know I'm pretty tight about that

1850
01:21:49,010 --> 01:21:47,400
I mean I tell the investigators are on

1851
01:21:50,209 --> 01:21:49,020
our team that that's the way it's going

1852
01:21:53,810 --> 01:21:50,219
to have to be

1853
01:21:57,410 --> 01:21:53,820
personal information is not disclosed

1854
01:21:59,149 --> 01:21:57,420
uh so you got to put them at ease and um

1855
01:22:01,370 --> 01:21:59,159
occasionally you'll get somebody who

1856
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:01,380
doesn't mind putting it out there

1857
01:22:07,790 --> 01:22:05,280
uh but no you've got a um yeah you gotta

1858
01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:07,800
put them at ease and um

1859
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:11,040
and you know kind of tap down their

1860
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:12,480
fears

1861
01:22:17,330 --> 01:22:15,360
but you know with the internet and uh

1862
01:22:21,050 --> 01:22:17,340
more of these paranormal shows and

1863
01:22:23,570 --> 01:22:21,060
encrypted shows that are on TV now

1864
01:22:25,130 --> 01:22:23,580
uh I think people are much more open to

1865
01:22:28,010 --> 01:22:25,140
coming forward

1866
01:22:31,250 --> 01:22:28,020
uh I have found that to be the case

1867
01:22:33,229 --> 01:22:31,260
you know so um

1868
01:22:35,390 --> 01:22:33,239
I think but I think for the most part

1869
01:22:37,790 --> 01:22:35,400
people are sincere you know people say

1870
01:22:39,709 --> 01:22:37,800
ah you got a bunch of crackpots that are

1871
01:22:42,050 --> 01:22:39,719
coming forward and talking all this

1872
01:22:43,070 --> 01:22:42,060
nonsense well I haven't found that to be

1873
01:22:44,750 --> 01:22:43,080
the case

1874
01:22:46,430 --> 01:22:44,760
uh you're going to occasionally get

1875
01:22:48,590 --> 01:22:46,440
somebody to try to pull a wool over your

1876
01:22:50,450 --> 01:22:48,600
eyes but that that for the most part

1877
01:22:53,149 --> 01:22:50,460
that just does not happen

1878
01:22:54,770 --> 01:22:53,159
and uh I've had Witnesses I've talked to

1879
01:22:56,510 --> 01:22:54,780
that just break down when you're talking

1880
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:56,520
to them

1881
01:23:02,149 --> 01:22:59,280
um it happens a lot and uh they they

1882
01:23:03,709 --> 01:23:02,159
just want answers and uh you know that's

1883
01:23:05,450 --> 01:23:03,719
why they come to you they want answers

1884
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:05,460
it's not necessarily they want their

1885
01:23:09,470 --> 01:23:07,199
story out there

1886
01:23:11,930 --> 01:23:09,480
many times I get a report from somebody

1887
01:23:13,689 --> 01:23:11,940
they just want answers and then I had to

1888
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:13,699
talk them into letting me

1889
01:23:20,510 --> 01:23:17,040
uh write or disclose what they encounter

1890
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,520
and uh reassure them that their names

1891
01:23:24,410 --> 01:23:22,560
will not be used their location will be

1892
01:23:28,250 --> 01:23:24,420
very general

1893
01:23:31,610 --> 01:23:28,260
and uh you know so uh it's like pulling

1894
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:31,620
teeth sometimes but you know people

1895
01:23:35,149 --> 01:23:32,880
sincere

1896
01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:35,159
and I I think that's I think that's the

1897
01:23:38,510 --> 01:23:37,560
big knock on paranormal investigations I

1898
01:23:42,649 --> 01:23:38,520
I think

1899
01:23:44,930 --> 01:23:42,659
public who who are not involved with

1900
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:44,940
this just think they're a bunch of nuts

1901
01:23:49,850 --> 01:23:46,560
out there that just want to try to look

1902
01:23:52,250 --> 01:23:49,860
for fame or looking for recognition and

1903
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:52,260
that that in some cases it happens but

1904
01:23:55,790 --> 01:23:54,000
for the most part it just does not

1905
01:23:57,850 --> 01:23:55,800
happen that way

1906
01:24:00,169 --> 01:23:57,860
mm-hmm

1907
01:24:03,050 --> 01:24:00,179
yeah and most of the people they just

1908
01:24:06,250 --> 01:24:03,060
want to like you said why them you know

1909
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:06,260
I I myself searched for that for years

1910
01:24:13,370 --> 01:24:10,320
why me and how you said it's becoming

1911
01:24:15,070 --> 01:24:13,380
more normal it you know like my mom told

1912
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:15,080
me you don't talk about these things you

1913
01:24:19,729 --> 01:24:17,280
you don't want to be seeing this crazy

1914
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:19,739
talk about these things here and there

1915
01:24:23,870 --> 01:24:21,360
she would talk to me about them but then

1916
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:23,880
she'd stop she she'd clam up until

1917
01:24:27,470 --> 01:24:25,920
towards the end and then she would talk

1918
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:27,480
about it more but it was just more like

1919
01:24:29,870 --> 01:24:28,800
you don't want people to think you're

1920
01:24:32,990 --> 01:24:29,880
crazy

1921
01:24:35,450 --> 01:24:33,000
you know and yeah no I I agree with you

1922
01:24:37,610 --> 01:24:35,460
I really do and I do I hope more

1923
01:24:38,810 --> 01:24:37,620
experiencers do come forward so others

1924
01:24:40,490 --> 01:24:38,820
can see

1925
01:24:43,070 --> 01:24:40,500
that they're not alone I think that big

1926
01:24:45,950 --> 01:24:43,080
thing because when you have the

1927
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:48,830
well it's human nature not to want to be

1928
01:24:53,090 --> 01:24:50,159
ridiculed

1929
01:24:55,130 --> 01:24:53,100
and uh to want to be believed and I

1930
01:24:56,570 --> 01:24:55,140
don't want people putting you in a A

1931
01:24:59,090 --> 01:24:56,580
different light

1932
01:25:03,050 --> 01:24:59,100
that's uncomfortable for you and that's

1933
01:25:05,870 --> 01:25:03,060
just human nature and um but I I think

1934
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:05,880
as time has gone on and uh

1935
01:25:09,470 --> 01:25:07,679
there's more disclosure

1936
01:25:12,010 --> 01:25:09,480
uh people have come forward you know I

1937
01:25:14,990 --> 01:25:12,020
get a lot of cases that are very old

1938
01:25:16,729 --> 01:25:15,000
uh you know I get 70 year old man who

1939
01:25:18,169 --> 01:25:16,739
calls me oh I had this happen when I was

1940
01:25:21,290 --> 01:25:18,179
a teenager you know

1941
01:25:24,290 --> 01:25:21,300
you know that's I and I do I I like the

1942
01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:24,300
old stories it'd be nicer if it happened

1943
01:25:31,070 --> 01:25:28,560
you know a little closer to the timeline

1944
01:25:33,229 --> 01:25:31,080
but uh

1945
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:33,239
you know you you gotta you gotta

1946
01:25:38,209 --> 01:25:35,040
understand where they're coming from

1947
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:38,219
they they probably grew up in a very

1948
01:25:44,810 --> 01:25:42,960
uh conservative environment and um

1949
01:25:49,850 --> 01:25:44,820
you know they just didn't want to come

1950
01:25:54,709 --> 01:25:52,430
I agree with you because that

1951
01:25:56,930 --> 01:25:54,719
um Dogma in case that Tommy and I went

1952
01:25:59,149 --> 01:25:56,940
on that you sent this on when we had

1953
01:26:01,250 --> 01:25:59,159
talked to the witness and I had you know

1954
01:26:03,530 --> 01:26:01,260
said what I saw what I experienced well

1955
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:03,540
Tommy was looking at that track he he

1956
01:26:08,030 --> 01:26:06,000
got very quiet and he said well my

1957
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:08,040
father said he had had a wing humanoid

1958
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:10,800
experience you know but wasn't even a

1959
01:26:14,750 --> 01:26:12,719
mile down the road

1960
01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:14,760
um I believe it was the reservoir or

1961
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:17,280
something that's down that way or the

1962
01:26:23,149 --> 01:26:20,639
dam the dam it's down that way and he

1963
01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:23,159
said that he was stunned yeah

1964
01:26:28,010 --> 01:26:25,320
yeah he was done that his father had

1965
01:26:30,410 --> 01:26:28,020
that experience

1966
01:26:32,870 --> 01:26:30,420
so I mean it's it's just like you know

1967
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:32,880
you don't really talk about it and he

1968
01:26:36,830 --> 01:26:34,800
was like I said he was very yeah Tommy

1969
01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:36,840
said will more down you know I've had a

1970
01:26:41,149 --> 01:26:38,639
lot of reports around one more day and

1971
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:41,159
that's in Cambria County yeah yeah

1972
01:26:46,970 --> 01:26:42,960
um that whole area has had a lot of

1973
01:26:50,750 --> 01:26:49,970
yeah and I've only had we when we went

1974
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:50,760
there to

1975
01:26:57,649 --> 01:26:54,719
investigate it was there was no birds no

1976
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:57,659
bugs I've only had that happen up here

1977
01:27:02,810 --> 01:26:59,760
at flight 93. that's that's the only

1978
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:02,820
place that I've had it happen at and it

1979
01:27:07,970 --> 01:27:05,760
was just so disconcerting it was just it

1980
01:27:10,189 --> 01:27:07,980
was so weird and I felt so uncomfortable

1981
01:27:12,290 --> 01:27:10,199
there it was it was something but when

1982
01:27:14,270 --> 01:27:12,300
Tommy went back by himself

1983
01:27:16,129 --> 01:27:14,280
you know to double check everything he

1984
01:27:18,830 --> 01:27:16,139
said it was totally different there were

1985
01:27:21,229 --> 01:27:18,840
Birds there were bugs it was

1986
01:27:22,729 --> 01:27:21,239
you know it was normal so there was

1987
01:27:24,590 --> 01:27:22,739
something in the area that day I believe

1988
01:27:26,990 --> 01:27:24,600
and it changes the environment it really

1989
01:27:29,330 --> 01:27:27,000
does I mean these things come in there

1990
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:29,340
things change things quiet you know

1991
01:27:35,330 --> 01:27:31,920
anybody who's a hunter can can recognize

1992
01:27:39,950 --> 01:27:35,340
that right away and uh I know Tommy has

1993
01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:42,110
yeah and that's that's why he was like

1994
01:27:46,610 --> 01:27:44,940
check out that track we found he just he

1995
01:27:49,370 --> 01:27:46,620
didn't know and he was complaining about

1996
01:27:51,649 --> 01:27:49,380
it I I can't I can tell dear tracks I

1997
01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:51,659
can tell Bear Tracks I didn't know what

1998
01:27:54,890 --> 01:27:53,040
it was and that's why I was just

1999
01:27:56,450 --> 01:27:54,900
standing there when that whatever it was

2000
01:27:59,570 --> 01:27:56,460
rushed at me and

2001
01:28:00,649 --> 01:27:59,580
and I screamed because I didn't know

2002
01:28:03,290 --> 01:28:00,659
what else to do because I wasn't

2003
01:28:05,090 --> 01:28:03,300
expecting it you know

2004
01:28:06,770 --> 01:28:05,100
um I do have one last question for you

2005
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:06,780
from David Jones have you ever

2006
01:28:15,310 --> 01:28:13,189
well people knew me know what I'm gonna

2007
01:28:18,530 --> 01:28:15,320
say evil is evil

2008
01:28:20,570 --> 01:28:18,540
uh there are lots of a lot of evil

2009
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:20,580
out there

2010
01:28:23,450 --> 01:28:21,600
um

2011
01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:23,460
you know the conic the religious

2012
01:28:27,410 --> 01:28:26,400
connotation of demon I don't use that

2013
01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:27,420
word

2014
01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:29,040
um

2015
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:31,320
malevolent evil

2016
01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:35,280
ill intention yeah uh there are a lot of

2017
01:28:40,669 --> 01:28:37,920
energies that that

2018
01:28:42,770 --> 01:28:40,679
cause issues with the living

2019
01:28:44,570 --> 01:28:42,780
uh

2020
01:28:46,910 --> 01:28:44,580
and when people talk about demons

2021
01:28:50,209 --> 01:28:46,920
they're talking about something coming

2022
01:28:52,129 --> 01:28:50,219
from Hell or wherever these things come

2023
01:28:54,830 --> 01:28:52,139
from uh

2024
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:54,840
you know I I'm not a very religious

2025
01:28:59,629 --> 01:28:58,560
person I I do I do use some of it in my

2026
01:29:03,830 --> 01:28:59,639
work

2027
01:29:08,629 --> 01:29:03,840
uh I I do use the um

2028
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:08,639
the cabal I do know some cabal I I I'd

2029
01:29:15,110 --> 01:29:11,280
use the the Lesser Keys of Solomon in

2030
01:29:16,729 --> 01:29:15,120
some of my uh in some of my clearings

2031
01:29:22,610 --> 01:29:16,739
um

2032
01:29:25,370 --> 01:29:22,620
I I do know of it I do some divination

2033
01:29:28,750 --> 01:29:25,380
use crystals in the whole nine yards if

2034
01:29:31,850 --> 01:29:28,760
I need to if I need to as far as a demon

2035
01:29:35,689 --> 01:29:31,860
I don't buy into that I mean evil is

2036
01:29:39,169 --> 01:29:35,699
evil uh they're simple there are simply

2037
01:29:41,209 --> 01:29:39,179
different degrees of evil malevolences

2038
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:41,219
uh if it's really

2039
01:29:45,709 --> 01:29:43,920
really bad and some people say oh it's a

2040
01:29:46,610 --> 01:29:45,719
demon okay you call what you want to

2041
01:29:49,850 --> 01:29:46,620
call it

2042
01:29:52,430 --> 01:29:49,860
you know so no I but I have dealt with

2043
01:29:55,070 --> 01:29:52,440
some pretty bad things

2044
01:29:58,729 --> 01:29:55,080
um you know the uh the case that I did

2045
01:30:01,970 --> 01:29:58,739
which I called the uh Sioux City entity

2046
01:30:03,950 --> 01:30:01,980
uh that thing was evil

2047
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:03,960
it was um

2048
01:30:08,050 --> 01:30:05,760
it wasn't even an Earthbound it was

2049
01:30:10,370 --> 01:30:08,060
something that was not human

2050
01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:10,380
if you want to call that a demon that's

2051
01:30:16,010 --> 01:30:12,719
fine but it was uh it was pretty strong

2052
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:16,020
it was feeding off of dead energy

2053
01:30:20,090 --> 01:30:17,280
the Dead

2054
01:30:20,890 --> 01:30:20,100
as well as a living

2055
01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:20,900
um

2056
01:30:27,129 --> 01:30:24,000
do you want to tell us about that before

2057
01:30:30,110 --> 01:30:27,139
well you know I I

2058
01:30:31,850 --> 01:30:30,120
did talk about it in my last

2059
01:30:34,490 --> 01:30:31,860
um

2060
01:30:37,490 --> 01:30:34,500
personal report but it's the case I've

2061
01:30:39,169 --> 01:30:37,500
worked on in Sioux City Iowa

2062
01:30:48,830 --> 01:30:39,179
uh

2063
01:30:51,770 --> 01:30:48,840
some type of attachment of some type of

2064
01:30:53,450 --> 01:30:51,780
evil entity and I think that actually I

2065
01:30:55,070 --> 01:30:53,460
think it originated in Arlington Texas

2066
01:30:56,330 --> 01:30:55,080
and when he moved up there was attached

2067
01:31:00,050 --> 01:30:56,340
to them

2068
01:31:01,790 --> 01:31:00,060
and as time went on it was uh it was

2069
01:31:04,189 --> 01:31:01,800
really affecting the family and in fact

2070
01:31:05,990 --> 01:31:04,199
I think their mother actually died from

2071
01:31:08,930 --> 01:31:06,000
this this evil entity

2072
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:08,940
uh I think it led to her eventual

2073
01:31:13,910 --> 01:31:11,760
Dimension her eventual death

2074
01:31:18,970 --> 01:31:13,920
um when she went to the Mayo Clinic they

2075
01:31:21,470 --> 01:31:18,980
said that she was suffering PS uh PS

2076
01:31:24,110 --> 01:31:21,480
post-traumatic PTSD

2077
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:24,120
and uh I think it was a result of this

2078
01:31:27,169 --> 01:31:25,199
entity

2079
01:31:29,930 --> 01:31:27,179
well this thing stuck around it was

2080
01:31:32,330 --> 01:31:29,940
feeding off it was feeding off the

2081
01:31:34,970 --> 01:31:32,340
speared energy that was around the area

2082
01:31:37,010 --> 01:31:34,980
as a result of a plane crash it lived

2083
01:31:40,250 --> 01:31:37,020
right across the street across the road

2084
01:31:43,010 --> 01:31:40,260
the thoroughfare from uh the Gateway

2085
01:31:44,450 --> 01:31:43,020
Sioux City Gateway uh

2086
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:44,460
Airport

2087
01:31:50,090 --> 01:31:47,760
where there was a horrendous

2088
01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:50,100
plane crash there years ago

2089
01:31:56,030 --> 01:31:53,040
and there was a lot of a lot of roaming

2090
01:31:58,430 --> 01:31:56,040
energy people who were Earthbound that

2091
01:32:00,470 --> 01:31:58,440
didn't even know they were dead and this

2092
01:32:03,830 --> 01:32:00,480
thing was feeding off the sisters energy

2093
01:32:07,149 --> 01:32:03,840
the family's energy as well as the

2094
01:32:09,290 --> 01:32:07,159
energy of these these these dead beings

2095
01:32:12,590 --> 01:32:09,300
these Spirit beings

2096
01:32:15,050 --> 01:32:12,600
and I worked with these girls for uh

2097
01:32:17,330 --> 01:32:15,060
girls these ladies for

2098
01:32:19,790 --> 01:32:17,340
over a decade

2099
01:32:23,209 --> 01:32:19,800
and um

2100
01:32:25,790 --> 01:32:23,219
you know it took time and uh it was hard

2101
01:32:29,510 --> 01:32:25,800
you know she was the one sister was

2102
01:32:32,750 --> 01:32:29,520
really experiencing some bad effects

2103
01:32:37,310 --> 01:32:32,760
she was uh she was contorting

2104
01:32:41,030 --> 01:32:37,320
she was speaking in tongues uh

2105
01:32:44,450 --> 01:32:41,040
she was causing PK activity

2106
01:32:50,930 --> 01:32:48,649
had PK abilities was an intuitive she's

2107
01:32:52,250 --> 01:32:50,940
now grown she is a very good psychic

2108
01:32:55,129 --> 01:32:52,260
medium

2109
01:32:57,410 --> 01:32:55,139
I worked with her directly

2110
01:32:59,750 --> 01:32:57,420
and this is something I do when I when I

2111
01:33:01,550 --> 01:32:59,760
go into these places and a lot of times

2112
01:33:04,370 --> 01:33:01,560
it's um

2113
01:33:07,070 --> 01:33:04,380
it has to do with um

2114
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:07,080
uh the kids are also affected and many

2115
01:33:11,450 --> 01:33:09,600
times the experiences are also have

2116
01:33:12,590 --> 01:33:11,460
gifts and abilities which these these

2117
01:33:15,350 --> 01:33:12,600
ladies did

2118
01:33:17,090 --> 01:33:15,360
and their children had it as well

2119
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:17,100
and uh

2120
01:33:21,290 --> 01:33:19,679
so that happens a lot and I do a lot of

2121
01:33:23,149 --> 01:33:21,300
work with kids

2122
01:33:26,209 --> 01:33:23,159
so um

2123
01:33:28,250 --> 01:33:26,219
yeah So eventually it did it did calm

2124
01:33:30,649 --> 01:33:28,260
down and um

2125
01:33:32,030 --> 01:33:30,659
about a year ago we were able to

2126
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:32,040
eventually

2127
01:33:37,189 --> 01:33:34,560
alleviate what was going on there well

2128
01:33:39,189 --> 01:33:37,199
she had moved to another place and it

2129
01:33:41,570 --> 01:33:39,199
followed her there

2130
01:33:43,970 --> 01:33:41,580
and uh

2131
01:33:47,930 --> 01:33:43,980
I I think I think it's pretty well

2132
01:33:53,810 --> 01:33:51,229
well that's good that really is and yeah

2133
01:33:55,550 --> 01:33:53,820
I I tend to agree with you that runs in

2134
01:33:58,850 --> 01:33:55,560
the family I'm finding that out myself

2135
01:34:00,610 --> 01:33:58,860
with my son that it's it's starting to

2136
01:34:06,169 --> 01:34:00,620
you know

2137
01:34:08,090 --> 01:34:06,179
did with his age and it's just like yeah

2138
01:34:09,950 --> 01:34:08,100
it was some of the things that have been

2139
01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:09,960
coming out of his mouth lately is just

2140
01:34:14,270 --> 01:34:11,760
shocking and we don't we don't talk

2141
01:34:16,729 --> 01:34:14,280
about this in front of him like we don't

2142
01:34:20,330 --> 01:34:16,739
we don't say any of this and it's just

2143
01:34:22,850 --> 01:34:20,340
like this is just like God

2144
01:34:26,090 --> 01:34:22,860
um so I want to thank you so much for

2145
01:34:28,910 --> 01:34:26,100
coming on I truly appreciate it you have

2146
01:34:30,890 --> 01:34:28,920
been a wonderful guest and the story

2147
01:34:32,030 --> 01:34:30,900
these have been amazing everyone where

2148
01:34:34,970 --> 01:34:32,040
they can

2149
01:34:37,689 --> 01:34:34,980
find you and contact you and everything

2150
01:34:41,570 --> 01:34:37,699
else well you can just go to fans and

2151
01:34:44,330 --> 01:34:41,580
monsters.com and you know my con my uh

2152
01:34:45,649 --> 01:34:44,340
connection is there my email my phone

2153
01:34:47,090 --> 01:34:45,659
number

2154
01:34:50,090 --> 01:34:47,100
uh

2155
01:34:52,129 --> 01:34:50,100
are you good the cryptidhunters.org

2156
01:34:53,649 --> 01:34:52,139
Phantoms and monsters or Fortune

2157
01:34:57,709 --> 01:34:53,659
research team

2158
01:34:59,390 --> 01:34:57,719
uh we're all listed there so uh yeah if

2159
01:35:01,610 --> 01:34:59,400
you have anything come up feel free to

2160
01:35:05,649 --> 01:35:01,620
contact me or for you to contact the

2161
01:35:09,830 --> 01:35:08,450
and what about your upcoming shows do

2162
01:35:12,050 --> 01:35:09,840
you want to talk about those real quick

2163
01:35:14,990 --> 01:35:12,060
I don't have it well my upcoming shows

2164
01:35:15,850 --> 01:35:15,000
you mean here on yeah uh next week next

2165
01:35:20,629 --> 01:35:15,860
Friday

2166
01:35:22,850 --> 01:35:20,639
I'm probably going to do another

2167
01:35:26,270 --> 01:35:22,860
personal report show

2168
01:35:28,370 --> 01:35:26,280
uh on this channel and next Friday we're

2169
01:35:31,370 --> 01:35:28,380
going to be doing an alien abduction

2170
01:35:32,890 --> 01:35:31,380
round table which should be interesting

2171
01:35:39,550 --> 01:35:32,900
yeah

2172
01:35:44,810 --> 01:35:42,290
after I do my first reward stay on there

2173
01:35:46,610 --> 01:35:44,820
for Vincent's show so I gotta get that

2174
01:35:49,790 --> 01:35:46,620
out there

2175
01:35:51,350 --> 01:35:49,800
yeah exactly exactly looks like that too

2176
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:51,360
um he had a really great first episode

2177
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:53,520
with David Eckhart that was such a great

2178
01:35:57,470 --> 01:35:55,440
episode so if you guys didn't get to see

2179
01:35:59,450 --> 01:35:57,480
that go back and watch it because it's

2180
01:36:01,250 --> 01:35:59,460
up on the channel that was a really

2181
01:36:02,870 --> 01:36:01,260
great episode with Vincent the day with

2182
01:36:05,209 --> 01:36:02,880
that card

2183
01:36:07,129 --> 01:36:05,219
um again Lon I want to thank you so much

2184
01:36:09,110 --> 01:36:07,139
for coming on and I do want to have you

2185
01:36:12,110 --> 01:36:09,120
back because I love your stories and

2186
01:36:14,090 --> 01:36:12,120
everyone else loves your stories so if

2187
01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:14,100
you'll come back at any time you know

2188
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:17,280
that I mean you're part of the team so

2189
01:36:20,209 --> 01:36:19,199
anytime you need something you just let

2190
01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:20,219
me know

2191
01:36:24,890 --> 01:36:22,320
all right thank you so much and you have

2192
01:36:27,110 --> 01:36:24,900
a good night thank you again thank you

2193
01:36:30,830 --> 01:36:29,149
all right I want to thank everyone again

2194
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:30,840
for coming out and staying with us

2195
01:36:36,649 --> 01:36:33,600
tonight again next Wednesday lawn's

2196
01:36:38,930 --> 01:36:36,659
going to have a viewer report show and

2197
01:36:41,450 --> 01:36:38,940
then afterwards at 10 pm so lots can be

2198
01:36:43,490 --> 01:36:41,460
on at nine and then at 10 p.m Vincent's

2199
01:36:46,729 --> 01:36:43,500
going to be on so stick around to watch

2200
01:36:49,370 --> 01:36:46,739
him Friday lawn is going to have his

2201
01:36:52,129 --> 01:36:49,380
Phantoms and monster show and then I

2202
01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:52,139
will be on right after 11.

2203
01:36:55,850 --> 01:36:53,520
um I just want to thank you guys again

2204
01:36:58,189 --> 01:36:55,860
for sticking around and please like

2205
01:37:00,090 --> 01:36:58,199
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